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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
NOAA - NHC ^ | 29 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/29/2005 2:47:45 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: BlessedBeGod

That's not entirely accurate. It's always known that looters can be shot. During hurricane Hugo, Charleston Police Chief Greenberg said he wouldn't arrest the looters as he couldn't spare the people to guard them, but to beat and release them.


3,001 posted on 08/29/2005 10:05:05 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: maquiladora
Well, there were posts about 100,000 deaths...I think I'd call that going over the top.

If another Cat 5+ were to actually hit N.O. next year you'd get the exact same estimate. 50K to 100K casualties. They just got lucky today.

3,002 posted on 08/29/2005 10:05:12 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: monday

He just phoned in, things have stabilized.


3,003 posted on 08/29/2005 10:05:14 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Marysecretary

I wouldn't worry about Itta Bena. It's up in Northwest Mississippi, well away from the Mississippi River and a lot closer to Memphis than it is to New Orleans. (Look between Greeville and Greewood).


3,004 posted on 08/29/2005 10:05:16 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: DCPatriot
"Some of the cars coming back into the city aren't necessarily looters, IMO."

I should have mentioned that my comment about the cars coming into town being driven by looters was intended as a joke. There are probably plenty of potential looters already in NO, without them having to come in from elsewhere. :-)
3,005 posted on 08/29/2005 10:05:38 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Marysecretary

" before the cops come and let them go free after a day or two."

I don't think that is the choice of the police, is it? Probably ACLU after the fact. I am sure police would prefer to issue a stop or shoot order.


3,006 posted on 08/29/2005 10:05:48 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: TomB

I was thinking more of Geraldo than TWC.


3,007 posted on 08/29/2005 10:06:14 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: Moose4

Re: "For what it's worth...when Hugo came through Charleston in 1989, it picked up the aircraft carrier Yorktown, moored at Patriot's Point, out of the mud and moved it five feet forward and five feet left. That's what somebody at Patriot's Point told me when I went and visited in 1991."

Momma Nature can do just about what she wants...


3,008 posted on 08/29/2005 10:06:22 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: spycatcher

After they take care of their immediate needs, I'd say the folks in NO need to ask themselves some hard question about how their pumps are maintained.


3,009 posted on 08/29/2005 10:06:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: pgkdan

If you have a good broadband connection do wdsu.com. I don't know what kind of vehicle they are using, but they are driving through the streets. It looks bad there.


3,010 posted on 08/29/2005 10:06:34 AM PDT by 3dognight
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To: Calpernia
MSM doesn't mention A LOT of pertinent info!

I know. I am surprised they even mentioned snakes & gators.

3,011 posted on 08/29/2005 10:06:51 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I love that man. Just love him.


3,012 posted on 08/29/2005 10:07:03 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: cll

Thank you for posting that analysis!


3,013 posted on 08/29/2005 10:07:06 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: All

FEMA director arrives in BR

FEMA Director Mike Brown arrived at the state Office
of Emergency Preparedness in Baton Rouge shortly
before 11 a.m. and joined a conference call with
Gov. Kathleen Blanco and other federal and state
officials.

Brown will hold a press briefing with Blanco at 3:30
p.m., although state officials could also provide more
information after a noon conference call with local
officials who are tracking the storm damage.

Researchers watching the storm from Baton Rouge have
gotten reports of 6 feet of water at Jackson
Barracks in the Lower 9th Ward, as well as flooding
along the Industrial Canal.

But Kevin Robbins, director of the Southern Regional
Climate Center at LSU, said that water should begin
receding around the Industrial Canal area. Robbins
said he hasn't had any reports of flooding in the
Uptown area.

During the height of the storm, 12 feet of water
was pushed up the Mississippi River in New Orleans,
Robbins said. There was also a 3-foot surge in the
river at Baton Rouge, but in both cases the water was
contained by the levees and did not go over the top.

But those kind of surges "could cause havoc with
boats," he said.

Many of the stations that record water surges in lakes
and rivers went out during the storm, so researchers
do not currently have much information about the worst
surges, Robbins said.

"We are working in a data poor environment," he said.

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/2005_08.html#074785


3,014 posted on 08/29/2005 10:07:18 AM PDT by LibSnubber (Lafayette, LA........PRAYER AGAINST STORMS on my homepage)
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To: sonofatpatcher2

Prez is up!


3,015 posted on 08/29/2005 10:07:24 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: 3dognight

Alert. President Bush speaking on MSNBC.


3,016 posted on 08/29/2005 10:07:25 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Each storm has its own characteristics.... here is a photo from Besty ......


Click

3,017 posted on 08/29/2005 10:07:39 AM PDT by deport (If you want something bad enough, there's someone who will sell it to you. Even the truth your way.)
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To: 3dognight
FNC reporting that damage to Gulfport and Biloxi is extensive. My dad lives in the town next to Long Beach and I sure would love someone to report on it
3,018 posted on 08/29/2005 10:07:46 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (Born/raised on MS beaches (SC now)...Criminals feed on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: rolling_stone

Either the Weather Channel or CNN had a reporter based in Mandeville last night. As the storm moves north, they may be reporting soon.


3,019 posted on 08/29/2005 10:07:47 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Calpernia

TCDAT2
HURRICANE KATRINA DISCUSSION NUMBER 27
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT MON AUG 29 2005

THE EYE OF HURRICANE KATRINA IS MAKING ITS SECOND NORTHERN GULF
COAST LANDFALL...NEAR THE LOUISIANA-MISSISSIPPI BORDER. WSR-88D
RADAR DATA SHOW THAT THE NORTHERN EYEWALL IS VERY INTENSE AND
DOPPLER VELOCITIES ARE NEAR 120 KT AT AN ALTITUDE OF ABOUT 5000 FT
OVER EXTREME SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI. THIS...ALONG WITH OBSERVATIONS
FROM AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT...SUPPORTS
THE CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATE OF 110 KT. STEADY WEAKENING WILL
OCCUR AS THE CENTER MOVES OVER LAND. HOWEVER KATRINA HAS SUCH A
LARGE AND POWERFUL CIRCULATION THAT IT WILL PROBABLY RETAIN
HURRICANE INTENSITY FOR ABOUT 12 HOURS...BRINGING DAMAGING WINDS
WELL INLAND. THE POTENTIAL LOSS OF LIFE DUE TO FALLING TREES IS A
MAJOR CONCERN...AS IS FRESHWATER FLOODING.

THE FORWARD SPEED HAS INCREASED SLIGHTLY AND INITIAL MOTION IS NOW
360/14. THE TRACK FORECAST REASONING IS BASICALLY UNCHANGED.
KATRINA SHOULD ACCELERATE NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD IN THE FLOW BETWEEN A
CYCLONE NORTH OF THE GREAT LAKES AND AN ANTICYCLONE NEAR THE
SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES COAST OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. KATRINA
IS EXPECTED TO LOSE TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS...AND ITS IDENTITY...
LATER IN THE FORECAST PERIOD AS IT MERGES WITH A MID-LATITUDE
CYCLONE.

SPECIAL THANKS ARE EXTENDED TO THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE RESERVE
HURRICANE HUNTER CREWS STATIONED AT KEESLER AIR FORCE BASE IN
BILOXI MISSISSIPPI...WHO HAVE BEEN FLYING CONTINUOUS MISSIONS
THROUGH KATRINA EVEN AS THEIR FAMILIES AND HOMES ARE BEING
SERIOUSLY IMPACTED BY THIS HURRICANE.


3,020 posted on 08/29/2005 10:07:55 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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