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I thought this was particularly telling . .

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"What we've managed to do so far at the border is to keep people from going back. I don't know that we've stopped anyone who really wants to get in from getting in.

We've made it far more expensive and far more dangerous to come across, so those who are coming for work are going to come and stay."


1 posted on 08/28/2005 8:17:20 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; Pro-Bush; ...
Immigration begets more immigration.

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"There's this fallacy that there's a set level of foreign labour that the economy is going to suck in, so let's accommodate more of it, all of it, and then illegal immigration will shrink.

The fact is immigration always creates more immigration."


2 posted on 08/28/2005 8:19:58 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Actually we have good laws on the books but they aren't enforced and they need a tiny bit of revision. If employer sanctions were given real teeth 10 years ago we wouldn't be in the mess we're in. A verifiable SS number database is cheap and easy and should have been compulsory for all employees to be verified against it. We could still do it today and at least 50% of illegals would self-deport.


3 posted on 08/28/2005 8:23:49 PM PDT by dennisw (Fill)
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To: Happy2BMe

That is the truth and is why our permanent illegal resident population is growing.

The only way to stop illegal immigration is to go after those that employ them and stop giving then handouts.

We don't need 10,000 BP Agents. We need 10,000 Agents whose job is to find illegal alien employers, jail them and seize the business.


4 posted on 08/28/2005 8:30:03 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Happy2BMe

...Jeff Flake's conservatism is of a different brand...

Yeah, he's an America hating commie!


5 posted on 08/28/2005 8:30:47 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google CFR North American Community)
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"receive legal status, though only after big fines "

Big fine = $ 2,000.00


7 posted on 08/28/2005 8:34:03 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Happy2BMe

With his attitude he has the perfect name, Flake!!!!


8 posted on 08/28/2005 8:36:22 PM PDT by dalereed
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Some of us are trying to get immigration legislation passed and enforced at the state level here in TN. It's similar to the 1986 federal Act (minus the amnesty) with tougher penalties. If all the states did this, these people would not benefit from coming here and breaking our laws.

http://nashville.about.com/b/a/174914.htm


13 posted on 08/28/2005 8:54:46 PM PDT by Venerable Bede
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Armed with support from local newspapers such as the Arizona Republic and backing from business interests, he and others have been lobbying their fellow Republicans. "It's the right thing to do, and it plays well," he says. Opposition to immigration, he insists, "is just bad politics. You put yourself in territory where I don't think the Republican party wants to be".

Flake is going to be unemployed. He has really misread the situation. This isn't his trusty old farmhand that's coming in here lately, this is criminal gangs who are raping and murdering. This is illegals completely taking over school districts and hospital emergency rooms. This is TB and other diseases long thought stamped out that are suddenly breaking out all over.

25 posted on 08/28/2005 9:23:03 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("You must call evil by it's name" GW Bush ......... It's name is Terror)
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America has a long history of welcoming not just immigrants, but illegal immigrants - a tradition celebrated in the famous verse on the Statue of Liberty that exhorts the world to "give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses learning to breathe free".

Bull!

Since the mid-1980s, it has tried to discourage illegal immigrants by building fences, fining employers and jailing and deporting those found illegally.

Bull!

California broke ground in 1994 when 59 per cent of the state's voters passed Proposition 187, which banned illegal immigrants in the state from receiving public education, non-emergency medical care or any other taxpayer-funded benefits.

Prop. 187 died a swift death.

Have these authors done research into illegal immigration?

38 posted on 08/29/2005 8:18:37 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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But the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act changed all that. It offered amnesty to some 3m undocumented workers, allowing them to stay in the US permanently.

We can thank Ted Kennedy for the first one, and that sorry POS has proposed another one? Hah! No thank you! We can't afford ANYTHING Kennedy, or McCain have proposed.

There is only one thing that would stop illegal immigration and it would stop it right now. That's to make it a mandatory 10 years in prison with a $100K fine per person, for any employer who knowingly hires an illegal. Most employers just see the chance to make a few extra bucks by hiring an illegal, but at the risk of going to prison, they would fire ALL illegals immediately. If illegals knew they could not get a job, they would stop coming. Hopefully most of them would head back to Mexico.

43 posted on 08/29/2005 3:05:00 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Clinton will be recorded in history as the only President to do "Hanky Panky between the Bushes.")
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To: Happy2BMe

Bookmark


44 posted on 08/29/2005 5:04:47 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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