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Posted on 08/28/2005 8:10:23 PM PDT by NautiNurse
I do believe JB did all he could do for F & J and the other two, but our local county preparedness person totally dropped the ball. He LUCKED out that the storms were no worse than they were. Then he and the rest of his buddies patted each other on the back at their "success".
What a joke. Draconian curfews and other such day-after "preparation". What they put the poor people through AFTER the storm that had homes on the barrier island was unforgivable. (I'm on the mainland side)
I'm not saying I wouldn't bug out in the right situation, but what these idiots did will give me pause.
If someone needs to the governor or mayor to tell them whether to leave or not then I don't have anything to say. Personally I'd rather just listen to the news and make my own decisions.
It's not like this is a stealth storm. The general public knew that it was heading to New Orleans at exactly the same time that the government did.
The guys might be an idiot (I don't know) but I as conservatives we shouldn't pine so for government feel good declarations. I don't care if Clinton feels my pain or not.
Before 9/11 most of the general public believed that Washington DC (especially the pentagon) was heavily protected from air attack. Ends up that it wasn't. In hindsight, that is one of the first things a good president would have thought of but apparently many American presidents dropped the ball.
The point is that reactionary people thrive on 20/20 hindsight situations.
Cautious optimism with the claim it's down to 155 mph winds?
"and I'm sure you'll now gripe that they don't have adequate mental relief and color TV's, so just let 'em drown."
You said it SO much better than I !!
Advance team will be there tomorrow (not in NO) after the storm passes by to start setting everything up for the President to tour the area.
Eternity is a long time, but I would wait.
Aw, shucks, Flyer...
Now you've made me blush!
Yep, the whole family is thanking my s-i-l for making my brother move back to IL, the ole' "I was right, you were wrong" routine. Seriously, they weren't happy there. A neighbor told her not to change the carpet, a storm and flooding would happen soon enough and her homeowner's insurance would cover it. They evacuated last year and they prefer to live in "tornado alley".
I doubt I get Art locally. I'll try to find an online link.
prisoner6
I thought it might too, but that IR satellite loop shows a big swath of blue cutting into the left side of the storm... We can all hope it gets weaker.
Inconceivable! I dont doubt it, but how can local authorities be so incompetent? No plan? They have had a good number of close calls this year already. But, with the possibility.. the mere possibility of such destruction, how can there be no pending organization. In the Northwest we have standby contingencies along the coast for tsunami evacuations that have been in place prior to the Indian Ocean Event. And no one can remember the last significant tsunami here.
The Gulf has Hurricanes every year as predictable as bluebonnets.
listening to radio out of Baton Rouge it sounds as though every major artery in the region is a parking lot. There are a lot of people out there exposed to elements of impending doom from Dallas to Vicksburg. Flashflooding could be as deadly as the storm itself.
I'd be a bit surprised now. The ocean shelf is very shallow in that part of the Gulf, and there's probably not enough depth for their to be significant strengthening before landfall. The window for strengthening is probably just about closed.
I know that you lied about ever being in one because you've always orderly evacuated and have always been hundreds of miles away.
...Potentially catastrophic Hurricane Katrina beginning to turn
northward toward southeastern Louisiana and the northern Gulf
Coast...
...Sustained hurricane-force winds occurring along the
southeastern Louisiana coast...
a Hurricane Warning is in effect for the north central Gulf Coast
from Morgan City Louisiana eastward to the Alabama/Florida
border...including the city of New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain.
Preparations to protect life and property should be rushed to
completion.
A Tropical Storm Warning and a Hurricane Watch are in effect from
east of the Alabama/Florida border to Destin Florida...and from
west of Morgan City to Intracoastal City Louisiana.
A Tropical Storm Warning is also in effect from Destin Florida
eastward to Indian Pass Florida...and from Intracoastal City
Louisiana westward to Cameron Louisiana.
For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.
At 2 am CDT...0700z...the center of Hurricane Katrina was
located near latitude 28.2 north...longitude 89.6 west or about
70 miles south-southwest of the mouth of the Mississippi River
and about 130 miles south-southeast of New Orleans Louisiana.
Katrina is now moving toward the north near 12 mph. This motion is
forecast to continue today with a gradual increase in forward
speed. A turn toward the north-northeast is expected later tonight
and on Tuesday. On the forecast track the center of the hurricane
will be very near the northern Gulf Coast later this morning.
However... conditions are gradually deteriorating along portions of
the central and northeastern Gulf Coast...and will continue to
worsen throughout the day.
Maximum sustained winds are near 155 mph with higher gusts.
Katrina is now a strong category four hurricane on the
Saffir-Simpson scale. Some fluctuations in strength are likely
prior to landfall...but Katrina is expected to make landfall as
either a category four or possibly a category five hurricane.
Winds affecting the upper floors of high-rise buildings will be
significantly stronger than those near ground level.
Katrina remains a very large hurricane. Hurricane force winds extend
outward up to 105 miles from the center...and tropical storm force
winds extend outward up to 230 miles. During the past hour...a wind
gust to 83 mph was reported from a University of southern
Mississippi buoy located just east of the Chandeleur Islands...a
gust to 75 mph was reported at Grand Isle Louisiana...and a wind
gust to 60 mph was reported in New Orleans.
The minimum central pressure recently reported by an Air Force
Reserve unit reconnaissance aircraft was 910 mb...26.87 inches.
Coastal storm surge flooding of 18 to 22 feet above normal tide
levels...locally as high as 28 feet...along with large and dangerous
battering waves...can be expected near and to the east of where the
center makes landfall. Some levees in the greater New Orleans area
could be overtopped. Significant storm surge flooding will occur
elsewhere along the central and northeastern Gulf of Mexico coast.
NOAA buoy 42040 located about 50 miles east of the mouth of the
Mississippi River recently reported waves heights of at least 40
feet.
Rainfall totals of 5 to 10 inches...with isolated maximum amounts of
15 inches...are possible along the path of Katrina across the Gulf
Coast and the Tennessee Valley. Rainfall totals of 4 to 8 inches
are possible across the Ohio Valley into the eastern Great Lakes
region Tuesday and Wednesday.
The tornado threat ahead of Katrina is increasing and scattered
tornadoes will be possible today over southeastern Louisiana...
southern Mississippi...southern Alabama...and over the Florida
Panhandle tonight.
Repeating the 2 am CDT position...28.2 N... 89.6 W. Movement
toward...north near 12 mph. Maximum sustained
winds...155 mph. Minimum central pressure... 910 mb.
The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center
at 4 am CDT.
Looks like it may be shifting east a bit now, which is good news. Also weakened to a top-range Cat 4, which is also good news.
Still very powerful, though.
Thanks for doing the HAT thread, Flyer!
I'm back - I'll see you guys there later today!
Art was in the USAF as a medic and was also a 911 operator at one point.
Are they calling her fat???
No wonder she's mad.
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