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To: Congressman Billybob
Well what kind of thinker, much less scientist, could that poster be, given his (or her) jumping to conclusions with no evidence to speak for them?

Einstein had some problems, obviously, with an anthropomorhic judgemental and personal god. Yet he spoke of G-d, too. Especially when ticked off as the "God doesn't play dice with the universe." quote shows. Then he was ticked off at quantum mechanics and uncertainty (the physics theory uncertainty).

What a person says when ticked off or emotionally distressed often opens the locked doors of what elsewise can a very close-to-the-vest, or controlled, or carefully presented personality.

Einstein clearly recognized at a deep level the inference of Divine Action upon the everyday realm of physics and the universe.

Einstein's lament shows that at heart he was not some modern Pythagorean.

213 posted on 08/28/2005 8:05:18 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
My "evidence" is the position of Einstein, who was a fair to middling scientist. Dennett quotes Einstein extensively on his scientific insights. But when it comes to Einstein's conclusions about the origins of the universe itself, Dennett falls silent on that subject.

Many other scientists see no conflict between science and religion. Galileo, Copernicus, and Newton come readily to mind. There are many, many others. In short, I see no conflict between religious views of whatever stripe, and sound scientific investigation in the lab.

My evidence for the absence of a fatal conflict between those two aspects of the human condition is extensive. But using Einstein as the first example is like walking into court with a single precedent, but that one comes from the Supreme Court and was unanimous.

It doesn't guarantee that position is correct in a vast theoretical sense. However, it is a good leg up that it is not ipso facto wrong. LOL.

John / Billybob

272 posted on 08/28/2005 9:45:13 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (I'm on the road, now. Contact me at John_Armor@aya.edu.net.)
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