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To: RusIvan


"Russian declaration was proclamed on June 12, 1991. It is now Russian Independence Day.
The Ukranian Independence Day (the day of thier declaration) was celebrated in August"

Sorry RussianIvan - but the truth is that while Ukraine declared Independence in August, the Russians were still trying to enslave their empire.

Your hamfisting of the facts is despicable.




"On March 17, 1991, in an all-Union referendum 78% of all voters voted for the retention of the Soviet Union in a reformed form. Ukraine and the Baltics boycotted the referendum. Also amongst Gorbachev's reforms was the introduction of a directly elected president of the RSFSR (Russia). The election for this post was held in June 1991. The populist candidate Boris Yeltsin, who was an outspoken critic of Mikhail Gorbachev, won 57% percent of the vote, defeating Gorbachev's preferred candidate, Former Prime Minister Ryzhkov, who won 16% of the vote.

On August 20, 1991, the republics were to sign a new union treaty, making them independent republics in a federation with a common president, foreign policy and military.

However, on August 19, 1991, Gorbachev's vice president Gennadi Yanayev, prime minister, defense minister, KGB chief, and other senior officials acted to prevent signing of the union treaty by forming the "State Committee on the State Emergency." (see Soviet coup attempt of 1991) The "Committee" put Gorbachev (vacationing in the Crimea) under house arrest and attempted to restore the union state."

wikipedia


59 posted on 08/31/2005 6:53:08 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot; RusIvan; jb6

Folks, for now let's forget what this F... Zhirinovsky is saying. As long as he is not in power, he won't do much harm and I don't give a S... about the nonsense that comes out of his mouth.

For now, I'm more worried about the situation in New Orleans and other Southern States in the Katrina hurricane aftermath.

anonymoussierra (Sara forum):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1474101/posts


60 posted on 08/31/2005 9:20:24 AM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: spanalot; lizol

"On March 17, 1991, in an all-Union referendum 78% of all voters voted for the retention of the Soviet Union in a reformed form. Ukraine and the Baltics boycotted the referendum.==

Ukraine and Baltics boykotted? BHAHAHA:))))))

You proved my point that Wikipedia is just someone propaganda verison of history:).

Lizol plz note that. Wikipedia just lied about well-known fact of recent past. Now how we ca trust it with info on Suvorov?


61 posted on 08/31/2005 9:27:39 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: spanalot; Mazepa; sergey1973

DOn't change our subject now. We talked about who left USSR firrst Russia or Ukraine.

SO did you check my post about Ukraine Independence Day? Did you find that it is in August but Russian one in June?


62 posted on 08/31/2005 9:31:09 AM PDT by RusIvan
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