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Live Thread - Hurricane Katrina, Part IV (Update: Now a Category 5 )
NOAA - NHC ^ | 27 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/27/2005 8:05:55 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: BurbankKarl
this lady on CH6 telling people 180mph ground winds are coming for their houses

I feel sorry for all the innocent animals too.

801 posted on 08/28/2005 3:00:48 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: Sally'sConcerns; Black Birch

The Houston area is very flat. There are lots of deep drainage ditches to help prevent flooding.


802 posted on 08/28/2005 3:00:51 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: bentfeather
As bad as the storm is likely to be, what will make it much worse, I fear, will be the poor decisions made by a large number of people.

It's a natural tendency I suppose, but in this situation it will be deadly - to procrastinate making the decision to evacuate, or to be cavalier about not leaving - and then, when it gets really bad, change your mind and jump in the car and try to flee.

803 posted on 08/28/2005 3:03:11 AM PDT by Heatseeker ("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
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To: beyond the sea

Me too, me too. :(


804 posted on 08/28/2005 3:05:14 AM PDT by JUMPIN JEHOSPOHAT
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To: Heatseeker

So true. I do hope folks use some common sense and get out safely while they can.

Seems we do like to hang onto the last minute and it's not wise.


805 posted on 08/28/2005 3:06:04 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Two Years of Poetry...)
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To: newzjunkey
From the NHC website . . .

Hurricane Andrew of 1992 made landfall over southern Miami-Dade County, Florida causing 26.5 billion dollars in losses--the costliest hurricane on record.

Records are made to be broken. Compared to Katrina, Andrew will seem like just another tropical storm.

806 posted on 08/28/2005 3:06:37 AM PDT by vox humana
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To: pax_et_bonum
The Houston area is very flat. There are lots of deep drainage ditches to help prevent flooding.

I thought that's what I remembered about the ditches. I've tried to google about Houston being either above or below sea level by a few feet but am having no luck yet in finding any info. I know when I was growing up we were taught Houston was a little below sea level. Of course, with new and improved ways of measuring, the maps may have changed.

807 posted on 08/28/2005 3:09:30 AM PDT by Sally'sConcerns
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To: MSCASEY; RepublicanArmy; janetjanet998; Prophet in the wilderness; Miss Marple; numberonepal
I am going to go get some sleep soon!

The Tree and the Reed

“WELL, little one,” said a Tree to a Reed that was growing at its foot, “why do you not plant your feet deeply in the ground, and raise your head boldly in the air as I do?”

“I am contented with my lot,” said the Reed. “I may not be so grand, but I think I am safer.”

“Safe!” sneered the Tree. “Who shall pluck me up by the roots or bow my head to the ground?” But it soon had to repent of its boasting, for a hurricane arose which tore it up from its roots, and cast it a useless log on the ground, while the little Reed, bending to the force of the wind, soon stood upright again when the storm had passed over.

Aesops Fables

808 posted on 08/28/2005 3:12:55 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: Sally'sConcerns

I think Houston's about fifty feet above sea level.


809 posted on 08/28/2005 3:14:30 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: beyond the sea

Morning all...Questionfor the group...I recall last year, on one of the many hurricane threads, somebody posted an article about a plan to build a huge 40' high wall around several square blocks of NO... a last-stand refuge for those trapped by flood waters. Anyone recall this, or have a link?


810 posted on 08/28/2005 3:26:24 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
For some reason I was under the impression the deep ditches found in and around Houston were dug for flood control.

They live next to the Brazos River south of Houston. It is a little bigger than a ditch..

811 posted on 08/28/2005 3:26:33 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: All

If this is accurate....

440
URNT12 KNHC 280951
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 28/09:21:10Z
B. 25 deg 32 min N
087 deg 20 min W
C. 700 mb 2381 m
D. NA kt
E. NA deg 000 nm
F. 054 deg 144 kt
G. 326 deg 016 nm
H. EXTRAP 915 mb
I. 8 C/ 3052 m
J. 20 C/ 3055 m
K. 13 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. E04/30/25
N. 12345/ 7
O. 1 / 1 nm
P. AF302 1712A KATRINA OB 04
MAX FL WIND 144 KT NW QUAD 09:16:00 Z
MAX FL TEMP 21 C, 331 / 11NM
SLP EXTRAPOLATED FROM 700MB.


812 posted on 08/28/2005 3:28:21 AM PDT by neutrality
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To: neutrality

Holy bleep. Look at that pressure. 915 mb. Yikes.


813 posted on 08/28/2005 3:30:59 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Black Birch
They live next to the Brazos River south of Houston. It is a little bigger than a ditch..

I knew that! ;^)

I was referencing more about Houston proper than I was outlying areas.

814 posted on 08/28/2005 3:30:59 AM PDT by Sally'sConcerns
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To: ken5050
ping to:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1472213/posts

Open letter to FEMA and Bush..declare a NATIONAL emergency

815 posted on 08/28/2005 3:35:07 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: ken5050

I don't recall that.


816 posted on 08/28/2005 3:35:52 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: neutrality; All
H. EXTRAP 915 mb

Frightening........ with so much time to travel over water near 90 degrees.

817 posted on 08/28/2005 3:37:16 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: beyond the sea

That makes it a Cat 5. At least by that standard.

Although I believe it also needs to have substained winds of 155 as well to be officially a Cat 5. But seems highly likely it will make that at this point.


818 posted on 08/28/2005 3:44:14 AM PDT by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: newzjunkey

You're right. I heard a meteorologist say that when they get that big they are their own "weather system," and they make the weather, other systems do not have an effect on them.


819 posted on 08/28/2005 3:44:41 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: ImphClinton

Earlier it was reported that the winds are already 145 to 150.


820 posted on 08/28/2005 3:45:48 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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