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A War to Be Proud Of - [Christopher Hitchens at his best]
The Weekly Standard ^ | September 5, 2005 issue | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 08/27/2005 4:51:10 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored

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To: snarks_when_bored
Christopher Hitchens is absolutely brilliant. I wish we had more men with minds like his, and the ability to speak their minds.

Imagine what we could have accomplished in Iraq if only we didn't have to fight such a hard battle here at home and in europe.

81 posted on 08/27/2005 7:09:14 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("You must call evil by it's name" GW Bush ......... It's name is Terror)
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To: johnny7

Absolutely dead on.


82 posted on 08/27/2005 7:10:46 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Mitchell
"I do in fact know the answer to this question.
So deep and bitter is the split within official Washington
most especially between the Defense Department and the CIA
that any claim made by the former has been undermined by leaks from the latter."
83 posted on 08/27/2005 7:13:18 AM PDT by Allan
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To: atomicpossum
Has he straightened himself up, or is he just on the money when it comes to the WOT?

Both. Hitch has a very serious job to do and I think he realizes it. He has a gift of words, one our beloved president lacks, and I think he knows his ability to tell the story is as potent a weapon in this war as any military weapon. He knows this war is just, and it appears he is taking up the sword and joining the battle. There are millions of people in the middle east who want freedome who will welcome you to the fight.

84 posted on 08/27/2005 7:21:22 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("You must call evil by it's name" GW Bush ......... It's name is Terror)
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To: mo
IMHO, the real enemy is within...as with Vietnam defeat can only be engineered from our end. We all discuss Muslim threats within our borders....yet these pale against the anger of the Western Liberal toward Western thought and achievement.

And these actually I fear more then the Islamists. They are slowly but steadily hollowing out the supports of our civilization. Like Rome we fall not from without, but from within.
85 posted on 08/27/2005 7:22:20 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: patriciaruth
“I have my moments.” -Vincent Vega
86 posted on 08/27/2005 7:22:20 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Hitchens is not a man with whom I agree about everything [...] but, on balance, I find him persuasive on matters relating to the WOT.

He can be a rather doctrinaire lefty on social and economic issues, but he has generally been spot on on the War Against Jihadistan.

87 posted on 08/27/2005 7:22:35 AM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com ... DEATH BEFORE DHIMMITUDE)
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To: browardchad
It's the uninvolved, and largely ignorant middle-of-the-roaders who listen to the MSM with half an ear, read only the headlines in the local bird-cage liners

That and some clever poll taking and you have the new Story of The Week....Bush Approval Rating drops to 40%.

Brainwashing works, folks.

That is why we have to start exposing the media at every turn in the road and shift in the talking points. They are out to crush the America we love and replace it with socialism/communism and their New World Order, run by their world wide elite.

Meaning they are riding a tiger, and don't realize that China and their Islamofascist minions are going to eat them as well as us at the end of the ride. Heck, most of them probably don't know who their true masters are, and speak only with their handlers who claim another master, the world socialist party.

88 posted on 08/27/2005 7:22:46 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: joanie-f

Just a taste of H.H.Monroe, the main course will come later.
He was killed in the great war alas, but some of his war poetry lives on, although a pitifully small amount it is.

Hitchens is such a great writer, I'm glad his talents
have finally found a cause worthy of them.

Now off to the post office, or is that redundant?

t.


89 posted on 08/27/2005 7:30:59 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: joanie-f

Ooops, forgot to include the quote!!!

"THERE IS, first, the problem of humorless and pseudo-legalistic literalism. In Saki's short story The Lumber Room, the naughty but clever child Nicholas, who has actually placed a frog in his morning bread-and-milk, rejoices in his triumph over the adults who don't credit this excuse for not eating his healthful dish:



"You said there couldn't possibly be a frog in my bread-and-milk; there was a frog in my bread-and-milk," he repeated, with the insistence of a skilled tactician who does not intend to shift from favorable ground.":

Childishness is one thing--those of us who grew up on this wonderful Edwardian author were always happy to see the grown-ups and governesses discomfited.


Just a taste of H.H.Monroe, the main course will come later.
He was killed in the great war alas, but some of his war poetry lives on, although a pitifully small amount it is.

Hitchens is such a great writer, I'm glad his talents
have finally found a cause worthy of them.

Now off to the post office, or is that redundant?

t.


90 posted on 08/27/2005 7:32:14 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: patriciaruth
"That and some clever poll taking and you have the new Story of The Week....Bush Approval Rating drops to 40%."

Yep. If anyone were to take into account just how long the mass media has been telling us about support for the president AND the WOT "slipping, sliding, plummeting, dropping" etc., support for both should be well into the negative numbers by now.

Oh and "(tragedy du jour here) amid increasing violence". They've been saying THAT for over a year. If violence had REALLY increased every day for over 365 days, the population of Iraq and number of coalition forces ought to have been cut roughly in half by now from the attrition rate. But the left won't do the math and younger Americans don't know how.

91 posted on 08/27/2005 7:41:29 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: HChampagne

It's not Iraq POLICY that was wrong. It's the way it was presented.


92 posted on 08/27/2005 7:42:55 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: mewzilla

And handed out to every non-resident in Crawford, TX (and maybe the prime resident, too, for good measure).


93 posted on 08/27/2005 7:50:25 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: IncPen; Forecaster; Nailbiter

worth reading in its entirety....


94 posted on 08/27/2005 7:54:21 AM PDT by BartMan1 (...)
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To: IncPen; Forecaster; Nailbiter

worth reading in its entirety....


95 posted on 08/27/2005 7:54:25 AM PDT by BartMan1 (...)
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To: snarks_when_bored
I don't agree with all of Mr. Hitchen's premises, and I don't agree with all of his conclusions, but this is one of the most compellingly argued cases I've ever seen, and they guy can writes like his pen were a stiletto.

Well worth pondering...

96 posted on 08/27/2005 7:58:22 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: Condor51

No, I'm not having that much fun.
CNC programming. Milling machines. Airplane parts.


97 posted on 08/27/2005 8:11:19 AM PDT by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses, rifles for sister sarah)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Great article.
And what has become of that other Brit journalist often so conflicted lately...Andrew Sullivan? Nothing of his has been posted lately it seems.


98 posted on 08/27/2005 8:16:59 AM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: heckler
***No, I'm not having that much fun.
CNC programming. Milling machines. Airplane parts.***

I was just joshing. And I have to get to work too.

I have to finish some CAD drawings - HVAC blueprints to 'civilians' for a new School. Construction meeting on Wed, the contractors need my drawings Monday a.m.

Time to get the AutoCAD up and running :-)

99 posted on 08/27/2005 8:33:53 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: sirchtruth
Bush doesn't have to explain Jack to the left! They can all go pound sand.

One problem is that currently according to the polls (which he supposedly ignores) only the "true believers" now trust President Bush.

Our country is a republic, not a monarchy or a dictatorship, and so it does matter what the people know and what they think.

I think Hitch is correct in saying that the administration could have and should have done a better job of explaining all of this to the people - "Yes, it must be admitted that Bush and Blair made a hash of a good case, largely because they preferred to scare people rather than enlighten them or reason with them."

I know many people trust President Bush implicitly because they feel he is an honest Christian man. However, I think we should demand at least as much accountability, honesty and explanation from someone "on our side" whom we like as we would expect of a Bill Clinton, just as a matter of principle and good government.

100 posted on 08/27/2005 8:39:46 AM PDT by Amelia (Common sense isn't particularly common.)
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