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Able Danger loose ends [Linda Chavez: “Memory can play tricks”]
The Washington Times ^ | August 27, 2005 | By Linda Chavez

Posted on 08/27/2005 4:04:29 AM PDT by johnny7

Did a small intelligence group within the Defense Department identify hijacker Mohamed Atta as a member of a terrorist cell operating in the U.S. almost two years before he and 18 other terrorists killed more than 3,000 people on U.S. soil in 2001? And if so, why didn't this explosive information make it into the September 11 Commission report, which was supposed to be the definitive analysis on the worst terrorist incident in U.S. history? Depending on whom you talk to, this story is either proof the Clinton administration was asleep at the switch while terrorists planned attacks, or it's a case of false memory syndrome. Official statements seem to indicate the Defense Department leans toward the latter explanation.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; abledanger; atta; lindachavez
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To: johnny7
We may never know exactly what Able Danger...

This is truly irritating. We are at the beginning of the the unfolding of the AB story but we have Chavez musing that we may never know what they learned.
Chavez should never have written an article exposing her ignorance in such a way.

21 posted on 08/27/2005 5:51:48 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: libstripper
DOJ needed a BIG legal gun when Hillry got caught collecting FBI files, and apparently there are few bigger legal guns in WDC than Gorelick.

Wonder who wrote algore's "no controlling legal authority" speech?
22 posted on 08/27/2005 5:56:28 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: stocksthatgoup

Washington DC "insiders" ALWAYS provide cover for their own. DC is corrupt through and through. THAT is why NOTHING of merit EVER get's done there.


23 posted on 08/27/2005 6:02:15 AM PDT by zzen01
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To: gov_bean_ counter
A through outing of who knew what when and why it didn't pass over would totally destroy military careers of powerful people. The folks in power are not about to let that happen.

You're probably right. OTOH Dan Rather was once considered a powerful man backed by a powerful organization. OTOOH half of the powerful people were not supporting Danny Boy at that time.

Nevertheless, I hope we get the name of that 2-star general who squashed the info and made sure the FBI didn't get it even when they were ready to accept it.

We have a large number of really good researchers and investigators at FR. Some of them are retired LEOs. That 2-star has to be exposed and driven out along with whoever appointed him/her and was allied with him/her.

24 posted on 08/27/2005 6:13:43 AM PDT by Sal (Jamie Gorelick--a major Omissioner in the 9/11 Omission.)
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To: traderrob6

Good stuff on that blog. thanks.


25 posted on 08/27/2005 6:56:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: johnny7
>Did a small intelligence group within the Defense Department identify hijacker Mohamed Atta as a member of a terrorist cell operating in the U.S.

If the DIA
identified terrorists
within the US,

how come they didn't
deal with them right then and there?!
My understanding

is that issues with
"national security"
at their core do not

have the exact same
legal "entanglements" that
normal crimes work with.

If the DIA
pin-pointed terrorist cells
within the US,

then why didn't they
arrange black ops "accidents"
when they knew the score?!

26 posted on 08/27/2005 7:21:13 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: thegreatbeast
FYI

General Shoomaker is currently the Army Chief of Staff. Shoomaker was in on the Clinton's 'final-solution' for Waco. He's been active in Special Forces since the failed, Iran hostage rescue(Carter).

If he doesn't want something to come out of this... it won't.

27 posted on 08/27/2005 7:46:13 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: johnny7
The purposes are clear. Prior to 9/11, our government surpressed terrorist information to hide the fact that Willie was taking Saudi money and Iraqi oil voucher money to avoid doing harm to OBL. After, 9/11, the purpose shifted to denying/disproving any connection between Willie, OBL, Iraq and terrorism.

Again, the very stupidest thing Bush has done and continues to do is to allow Clibtonistas to function in his government. EVERY CLINTONISTA SHOULD HAVE BEEN PURGED FROM DAY ONE! The Clintonistas still in the administration, just like Berger, are there to destroy evidence that will help incriminate Willie and his wife! GET RID OF THE REMAINING CLINTONISTAS N O W!!!

28 posted on 08/27/2005 7:47:18 AM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: johnny7; All

If Schoomaker(sp?) was part of the Waco assualt, then he must be best buddies with that other notable Clinton general, Wesley Clark...Lots of rear guard action to cover for Clinton here...?!

Also, what is going on? In addition to this wimpy article by Linda Chavez trying to stear us away from AD, Hugh Hewitt won't discuss it. His latest reason why is that if there is any truth "there" it will come out. Outrageous! No, Hugh, it won't come out if you, and others, are trying so hard to tamp it down.
The only way this story has real staying power is if the considerable power of the people is mobilized with the help of ALL who have a national voice.


29 posted on 08/27/2005 8:34:29 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: johnny7

Wow! Isn't this helpful!

Why can't some of these repubs who don't know anything about Able Danger just shut up ..??


30 posted on 08/27/2005 8:38:41 AM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: johnny7
You started the thread with McDermot's shrill article, so you know, but for those who haven't read it I think we can safely say that it was debunked here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471094/posts

31 posted on 08/27/2005 9:17:02 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: johnny7
An example of STAGE MANAGEMENT of this story...pre-conditioning. You'll be seeing more of this stuff IMO in the days and weeks to come...and not just from the liberal MSM...Linda is a mainstream REPUBLICAN journalist.

Ill repeat my question...just how good WAS this Able Danger program...the COMPUTER PROGRAM that is.

What foreign associations were fingered as part of their data mining?

(Hint...we know of one country...China)
32 posted on 08/27/2005 9:22:16 AM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: CyberAnt

see my post #32


33 posted on 08/27/2005 9:23:15 AM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: CyberAnt

Chinagate links to Able Danger starting to appear:


MILITARY 'SPIED' ON RICE (More Able Danger leaks from Specter staffers)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471803/posts


34 posted on 08/27/2005 9:27:55 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: johnny7

What is the dark hidden mass about which all these orbit? C.H.I.N.A


35 posted on 08/27/2005 10:15:40 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
You are correct about China.

Jamie Gorelick was placed on the commission precisely to make sure that the door to China corruption was never opened.

You may remember that when Mr. Schippers took the evidence of Chinese corruption to the Senate during the impeachment trial preparations, Trent Lott and others told him not to touch that and just to stick to the sexual stuff. Both parties have suckled at the Chinese teat. Read Who Sold Us Out to China, an old essay of mine that touches on a few of these items.

Linda Chavez' attenmpted debunking of Able Danger in the Washington Times today is intended to protect certain Republicans, who like Clinton, were on the take from the Chinese.

36 posted on 08/27/2005 11:18:33 AM PDT by Publius
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To: Publius
We may also find that some of the technology China received found it's way to Iran. They are improving their long range missiles lately.

JEDI.
37 posted on 08/27/2005 6:08:51 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: maica; johnny7; Freee-dame

<< I like Linda Chavez .... >>

Do you like Armstrong Williams, too?

I used to like them both, too and as often as not gave each the benefit of any doubt I felt about anything either had to say. Until each in his turn, "blew it."

Like Armstrong, Chavez was long-ago compromised by her own actions. Now being restored to [East-Coast "Establishment"] popularity tends more-and-more to drive her.


38 posted on 08/28/2005 12:42:32 AM PDT by Brian Allen (All that is required to ensure the triumph [of evil] is that Good Men do nothing -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Publius

BTTT


39 posted on 08/28/2005 12:53:52 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: Brian Allen
Never said that.

I didn't have much of an opinion on Chavez... all I knew was that she was a Republican.

I DO think her dismissive attitude here is puzzling and uncalled for.

40 posted on 08/28/2005 4:24:13 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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