Revelation 4:11
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Posted on 08/26/2005 8:57:58 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
Revelation 4:11
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This universe existed in the shape of darkness, unperceived, destitute of distinctive marks, unattainable by reasoning, unknowable, wholly immersed, as it were, in deep sleep.Then the Divine Self-existent, himself indiscernible but making all this, the great elements and the rest, discernible, appeared with irresistible power, dispelling the darkness.
He who can be perceived by the internal organ alone, who is subtle, indiscernible, and eternal, who contains all created beings and is inconceivable, shone forth of his own will.
He, desiring to produce beings of many kinds from his own body, first with a thought created the waters, and placed his seed in them.
That seed became a golden egg, in brilliancy equal to the sun; in that egg he himself was born as Brahma, the progenitor of the whole world....
The Divine One resided in that egg during a whole year, then he himself by his thought divided it into two halves;
And out of those two halves he formed heaven and earth, between them the middle sphere, the eight points of the horizon, and the eternal abode of the waters.
From himself he also drew forth the mind, which is both real and unreal, likewise from the mind ego, which possesses the function of self-consciousness and is lordly.
Moreover, the great one, the soul, and all products affected by the three qualities, and, in their order, the five organs which perceive the objects of sensation.
But, joining minute particles even of those six, which possess measureless power, with particles of himself, he created all beings.
Cretinism marches on.
Freepers keep bringing this up about 5 times a day. Perhaps they are just looking (in vain) for some scientific evidence of creation. Why isn't their faith good enough? If you want to believe that all of this was created by the hand of God, by all means believe it. But recognize that He may just have done it the old fashioned way....through evolution.
> My mother says she is a Darwinist. I’m not sure of all the things that could or should imply. I take it to mean the she does not believe that the Cosmos and all that it contains is the result of the will of a Supreme Being. Nature just exists and that is all there is to it. Asking what is the purpose of human existence is a nonsense question. It has no meaning. As we have no conscious origin, we have no conscious destination. Hence no purpose.
You know, I think this is the Creationist version of the old gag about the paleontologist who finds a single toe-bone and then reconstructs, very wrongly, an entire fanciful creature from it.
"Darwinist = no purpose?"
I guess that's what they call a "leap of faith."
Beliefe in the biblical form of creation requires overlooking some serious problems. I would call that faith.
Personally I mix my faith in God with my beliefe in evolution. Where I find problems with evolution I attribute the blank spaces to Gods secrets.
God Bless
No mention of the fact that the article itself states:
Darwin’s theories are being questioned, but here we are not talking about religious zealots making the inquiry. We’re talking about real, live, grown-up scientists, who, because of our advancing knowledge of the molecular basis of life, and not just bible stories, are asking legitimate and profound questions that are undermining the basis of Darwinism.
Do Freepers read articles anymore?
ha ha...yes, my shoulders are broad and my ego humbled. I can handle it.
That seems to destroy your analogy. ;O)
Mac writes in part:
But recognize that He may just have done it the old fashioned way....through evolution.
Mac, I agree. The arrogance of people like Sevakis who assume that they know how God performed His miracles, is breathtaking. To conclude that a the person who understands Natural Selection therefore doesn't believe in God, is arrogant in the extreme. The truth will set you free -- using God's name to deny the evidence and promote a falsehood ("scientific" creationism) in order to cleave to a literal interpretation of Genesis, is wrong and true Christians should seek the truth through science and have enough faith in God to see His hand in all of it, as I certainly do in natural selection -- it is in itself intelligent design!
Notice that no literal interpretation of the New Testament is mandatory -- everyone knows that Jesus wasn't talking about someone having, literally, a sty or a log or a plank in their eye, because that makes no physical sense!!! Double standards!!! To me, it's the folks who insist on creationism who exhibit lack of faith in God, and the brains God gave them.
Whose listing always includes Behe, Behe, Behe, and no one else in particular.
Here's a good list of books on all sides.
The question answers itself. The answer is no.
> Unlike the paleontologist/evolutionist, he keeps an open mind.
*Wow*.
On the one hand, we've got paleontology and the history of evolution constantly being updated and revised as new information comes in (such as wonderful new stuff regarding bird evolution coming from China), and being berated by Creationists for not sticking to one precise story...
And on the other hand, we've got people like yourself declaring that paleontologists and evolutionsts don't have an open mind.
Just... *wow*. What's it like being able to hold two contradictory beliefs simultaneously?
How does a creationist or ID advocate go about deciding that a paleontologist is wrong? How do you know, for example, that Piltdown Man was a hoax? What's your basis for saying that something in science is wrong?
God's plan that is.
See thats a problem with strcit Evos, they want no God to have anything to do with evolution, and the same with strict creationists they deny all aspects of evolution.
And some think that ID is Christian specific and therefore cannt be taught. The whole issue has been succesfully muddled by all sides.
interesting...condescending, arrogant, and blasphemous...but interesting too
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