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To: wallcrawlr

Freepers keep bringing this up about 5 times a day. Perhaps they are just looking (in vain) for some scientific evidence of creation. Why isn't their faith good enough? If you want to believe that all of this was created by the hand of God, by all means believe it. But recognize that He may just have done it the old fashioned way....through evolution.


5 posted on 08/26/2005 9:10:36 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68

Beliefe in the biblical form of creation requires overlooking some serious problems. I would call that faith.

Personally I mix my faith in God with my beliefe in evolution. Where I find problems with evolution I attribute the blank spaces to Gods secrets.


7 posted on 08/26/2005 9:17:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: MACVSOG68
My mother says she is a Darwinist. I’m not sure of all the things that could or should imply. I take it to mean the she does not believe that the Cosmos and all that it contains is the result of the will of a Supreme Being.

Mac writes in part:
But recognize that He may just have done it the old fashioned way....through evolution.

Mac, I agree. The arrogance of people like Sevakis who assume that they know how God performed His miracles, is breathtaking. To conclude that a the person who understands Natural Selection therefore doesn't believe in God, is arrogant in the extreme. The truth will set you free -- using God's name to deny the evidence and promote a falsehood ("scientific" creationism) in order to cleave to a literal interpretation of Genesis, is wrong and true Christians should seek the truth through science and have enough faith in God to see His hand in all of it, as I certainly do in natural selection -- it is in itself intelligent design!

Notice that no literal interpretation of the New Testament is mandatory -- everyone knows that Jesus wasn't talking about someone having, literally, a sty or a log or a plank in their eye, because that makes no physical sense!!! Double standards!!! To me, it's the folks who insist on creationism who exhibit lack of faith in God, and the brains God gave them.

12 posted on 08/26/2005 9:26:50 AM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: MACVSOG68; wallcrawlr
Freepers keep bringing this up about 5 times a day..... Why isn't their faith good enough?

The question answers itself. The answer is no.

15 posted on 08/26/2005 9:31:32 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: MACVSOG68
"But recognize that He may just have done it the old fashioned way....through evolution.

Er...no. The "old fashioned" way, as you describe it..would be through a miracle, not man's idea of creation (i.e. Evoluuuuuuution).

55 posted on 08/26/2005 10:58:01 AM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: MACVSOG68

Most of the ID people and creationists I know are not looking for scientific evidence for creation. Quite the contrary is true. They understand there are limits to what we know and probably limits to what we can know. They just get a little tired of the other side being crammed down their throats as fact. Some facets under the umbrella of "evolution hypothesis" are pretty supported by facts, but some of the most damning and outlandish claims are supported by pure speculation and a strong desire for it to be true.

We are tired of the attempt by a particular scientific oligarchy to control the entire debate - and thanks to the internet, they have lost that control as surely as the MSM has lost control of the publics source of news. Like Dan Rather, the whole thing is coming down.

And the constant ad-hominem attacks and arrogance even in evo's ignorance is both irritating and comical at the same time.


83 posted on 08/26/2005 11:40:44 AM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenance (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: MACVSOG68
"Why isn't their faith good enough? If you want to believe that all of this was created by the hand of God, by all means believe it."

Uh, no.

We just object to having evolution taught as FACT to the exclusion of any other scenario.

Evolution is, at best, a theory. Its proponents weren't there to witness it any more than a creationist was there to witness creation.

The entire argument is about history, not science.

87 posted on 08/26/2005 12:05:09 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: MACVSOG68

My faith, and the worldly evidence that God has given me only help to strenghten it beaxause it shows that He created the world, and how he did it, but I am also wise enough to know that we humans were not there for creation so all we beside theory is revelation.


172 posted on 08/28/2005 4:17:48 PM PDT by JSDude1
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