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Authors of Fetal-Pain Paper Accused of Bias
Covenant News ^ | August 25, 2005 | Pro-Life News group

Posted on 08/25/2005 11:24:27 PM PDT by Siobhan

USA TODAY reports that the suspicious research study that claimed unborn children feel no pain until the final months of pregnancy, and given worldwide coverage by The Associated Press, was authored by a couple of pro-aborts. This is what we get when we allow baby murdering scum to have access to academia, when they should be tried and executed. The lead author of the bogus report, UCSF medical student Susan J. Lee, is also a lawyer. Before entering medical school, she worked as a lawyer for the domestic terrorist organization National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League (NARAL). Another author, Eleanor Drey, is medical director of one of San Francisco's largest abortion facilities.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionists; abuse; fetal; fetalpain; infanticide; naral; torture
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To: Alamo-Girl

Tell the Journal of the American Medical Assn. (JAMA) that they have NO BUSINESS publishing a political story as "science"........

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/feedback


21 posted on 08/26/2005 7:08:01 AM PDT by Gopher Broke (Abortion: Big people killing little people)
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To: Gopher Broke

Thanks for the ping!


22 posted on 08/26/2005 8:34:35 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


23 posted on 08/26/2005 4:56:37 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

BUMP


24 posted on 08/26/2005 5:00:29 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: Siobhan
Since when does the Journal of the American Medical Association publish papers lead-authored by med students?
25 posted on 08/26/2005 5:03:50 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: CFC__VRWC

Since the editor is a pro-abort pseudo-Catholic woman who has her own pro-death axe to grind...


26 posted on 08/26/2005 5:05:02 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: Siobhan
There is another thread running here today...and I forget its title, but one of the posters posted an interesting expose on the AP press association.

It would appear, and this is TRULY SCARY, that many of the articles the mainstream press reports on, and that includes the major networks and CNN, get their AP stories from several go betweens...and they are named by the poster ...the original news stories coming from a group called Fenton communications that has offices in DC, San Fran and NY which offers up the stories. This fenton group provides a FORUM for reporters where they can go and get the proper take on any story....all neatly packaged from a liberal point of view.

This fenton communications group is a huge liberal group that represents such astere groups as the lung association to just about every radical left wing group known....this group OFFERS to even write the articles the reporters turn into their bosses...paying them in the process.

It is genuinely scary to learn how the AP works.

Do the press corp even DO ANY WORK ON their own anymore?

It would seem the news is already biased, edited and those stories that do not help the leftist cause BEFORE they even reach the newtalkers and writers we all dispise so much!

27 posted on 08/26/2005 5:08:44 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Siobhan
Actually the editor of JAMA is a pro life Catholic who has done wonderful things for unborn babies in the womb in the OR.

Which makes her claim that this study is science so unpalatable. Why would such a smart and compassionate woman take such a stupid position? The only answer I can come up with is peer pressure. Of course thats purely speculation but there you have it.

28 posted on 08/26/2005 5:08:50 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Alamo-Girl
Perhaps the "list" would like to weigh in on this?
29 posted on 08/26/2005 5:09:42 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ThirstyMan
Good for USA Today for disclosing this hidden bias! Wow!Typical late Friday afternoon MSM data dump when they have to report something that doesn't fit their agenda.
30 posted on 08/26/2005 5:12:02 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Republic

Fenton Communications Group is the PR outfit behind Cindy Sheehan's "quiet, simple protest by a grieving mother."


31 posted on 08/26/2005 5:14:02 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: jwalsh07
Actually the editor of JAMA is a pro life Catholic who has done wonderful things for unborn babies in the womb in the OR.

This kind of thing is just not done by a peer-reviewed professional journal. Students and interns can be listed as co-authors of papers, but never as lead authors. Even if they do all the writing, their name appears under that of a professor or at least a licensed professional of much experience, who is assumed to have reviewed it, marked it up and endorsed it. This person's name will then appear at the top of the article. The peer review board at JAMA shouldn't have even accepted it without this "credentialing."

If this is true, then this is a serious scandal and there is simply no excuse for anything short of the editor's immediate removal. You could also argue that some heads on the review board need to roll as well.

32 posted on 08/26/2005 5:23:17 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Siobhan

On ABC Evening News tonight, 8/26, Sub. anchor Terry Moran said that he wanted to add some additional information on a story they had reported that the fetus does not feel pain until 29 weeks. He said the authors of the report, one worked for a pro-abortion group and the other had run an abortion Clinic. He said they had responded that the report was still accurate. Moran sounded like he doubted it.

I WAS SHOCKED AT ABC FOR CORRECTING THIS BOGUS PROPAGANDA REPORT.


33 posted on 08/26/2005 5:23:38 PM PDT by nightowl
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To: nightowl
I WAS SHOCKED AT ABC FOR CORRECTING THIS BOGUS PROPAGANDA REPORT.

First USA Today and now ABC - the media sees the fuse getting short on this bundle of dynamite and is running away from it as fast as they can.

34 posted on 08/26/2005 5:26:39 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: jwalsh07
Sorry to disagree with you about her support of abortion rights. Dr. Catherine deAngelis says she is both a staunch Roman Catholic opposed to abortion, but she also says she supports "a woman's right to choose" -- that don't cut it no how. Such comes from the Father of lies.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1470538/posts

35 posted on 08/26/2005 5:38:22 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: Siobhan
"given worldwide coverage by The Associated Press,"

As usual with liberal propaganda, the discrediting will get far less interest, and this study will be cited ad nauseum until it is taken as fact.

36 posted on 08/26/2005 8:24:12 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: jwalsh07

??? I don't keep a ping list except for the Chambers' devotions - if that is what you mean.


37 posted on 08/26/2005 9:28:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Siobhan
If she said that, then she is simply one more apostate Catholic in a country full of them.

Regards,

John

38 posted on 08/27/2005 8:15:23 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Siobhan

BUMP!

The Philadelphia Inquirer, of all places, had a story about this.
This "fetal pain" report has zero credibility. It is left to be seen if the JAMA cares a rat's behind about its own credibility and reputation. That publication claimed that they were unaware of the backgrounds of some of the authors and that they "would have disclosed" those obvious conflicts of interest if they had known about them.

So let's see what they do now.


39 posted on 08/27/2005 11:04:56 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Siobhan; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...

Catholic Defends article on fetal pain

Medical journal editor flooded with protests
Friday, August 26, 2005
BY LINDSEY TANNER
Associated Press

CHICAGO -- Catherine DeAngelis is a staunch Roman Catholic, used to give Holy Communion to her patients and says she strongly opposes abortion.

So the Journal of the American Medical Association's editor in chief says she had to take a walk around the block after receiving dozens of "horrible, vindictive" e-mails condemning her for publishing an article that says fetuses likely don't feel pain until late pregnancy.

"One woman said she would pray for my soul," DeAngelis said yesterday. "I could use all the prayers I can get."

DeAngelis ticked off a list of other nasty e-mails she received: "Your license should be stripped. "You should get a real job." "Eternity will definitely bring justice for you."

The article in Wednesday's JAMA prompted especially harsh letters from abortion foes because one of the five authors is a University of California, San Francisco obstetrician who works at an abortion clinic. A second author -- a UCSF medical student and lawyer -- once did legal work for the NARAL Pro-Choice America advocacy group.

Critics, including the National Right to Life Committee, said the article was a politically motivated attack on proposed federal legislation dealing with fetal pain. The legislation would require doctors to provide fetal pain information to women seeking abortions when fetuses are at least 20 weeks old, and to offer women fetal anesthesia at that stage of the pregnancy. A handful of states have enacted similar measures.

DeAngelis said JAMA will publish properly submitted critics' comments in an upcoming edition and will give the authors a chance to respond. But she stood by her decision to publish the article.

"There's nothing wrong with this article," DeAngelis said. "This is not original research. This is a review article," based on data in dozens of medical articles by other researchers.

The article did not mention the two researchers' ties to the abortion clinic and the advocacy group. But the connections were later reported by news organizations.

DeAngelis said the obstetrician's experience is not a conflict because performing abortions is often part of that job. She said she would have published the medical student's NARAL connection as a potential conflict of interest had she known about it in advance, but that not mentioning it does not mean that the article or journal are biased.

"If there weren't four other authors and this wasn't a peer-reviewed journal, I'd worry ... but I don't," she said.

Doctor Mark Rosen, the review's senior author, is a University of California-San Francisco anesthesiologist and fetal surgery pioneer. He called the article an objective review of medical literature.

Doctor Philip Darney, a UCSF obstetrics-gynecology professor who is the obstetrician's boss, said the article represents "thoughtful and thorough scholarship. No conflicts of interests were present in conducting this work and no affiliations nor clinical practice information were withheld inappropriately."

DeAngelis said she attends Mass at least weekly and also is a Eucharistic minister, which allows her to administer Communion to fellow Catholics. She said that while she opposes abortion, she also supports a woman's right to choose.

She said she attempts to set aside her personal biases in her role as editor of a reputable medical journal and that researchers who seek to publish in JAMA are expected to do the same.

Jerome Kassirer, a former New England Journal of Medicine editor and vocal critic of doctors' conflicts of interest, said he experienced a similar outcry in the 1990s when his journal published research concluding that a so-called abortion pill was safe and effective.


40 posted on 09/11/2005 1:41:52 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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