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To: Moral Hazard
Did you RTFA? He criticizes Intelligent Design as a tautology that explains nothing. That didn't require any kind of straw man.

I was highlighting his assertion that ID is nothing more than Biblical literalism disguised as science, which it is not. Many writers on the evolution side of the argument make this assertion, either because they are ignorant of ID or because they are being tendentious. This really annoys me. But please make note that I refrained from indicating whether I believe in ID; it was not my intent to offer an opinion on ID or evolution. The fact is, I happen to be a scientist who believes in evolution; like the well-known biologist and Roman Catholic Kenneth Miller (Finding Darwin's God), I see no contradiction between evolution and my Christian faith.

25 posted on 08/25/2005 4:01:59 PM PDT by megatherium (anti-tobacco is pro-life)
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To: megatherium
You're right about ID not being biblical literalism. Nevertheless, I think the article makes a lot of good points.
29 posted on 08/25/2005 4:06:28 PM PDT by curiosity (.)
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To: megatherium

The author of this article reasoned in circular logic (what the accuses the id'ers of doing by stating that they come at the scientific evidence with bias, and then inject religion (what the evolutionists are inferring is myth by either intentionally or on purpose by saying it this way..), when in reality he never attacks id on its merits or scientific grounds, he simply say "id=religion" so don't believe it! Really many id'ers do believe in id based on scientific evidence/observation. It's really a CHEAP shot, and shows a lack of faith in their own stance. IF you want to debate evolution v creation v id then fine do it based on facts and the search to find the truth, but most evolutionists I have found won't do this (especially in the media). Evolutionists in meadia find it easy to discredit an opponent by CHEAP tactics using political arguments ala the talk shows, but on issues based so much upon facts and not so much politics it just makes then sound silly (OF COURSE ACTUALLY ARGUING POINTS WOULD BE PLAYING FAIR IN THE ORIGINS DEBATE, something LIBERALS rarely do, and I doubt they will anytime soon on this debate)!! :)I my self am a CREATIONIST because I believe that the world wide flood existed and covered all mountains even (there is evidence that the Bible is based on fact, and scientists have found seashells on top of very high mountains :)!).


40 posted on 08/25/2005 4:27:37 PM PDT by JSDude1
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