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Think Dark (Peggy Noonan)
Opinon Journal ^ | Aug. 25, 2005 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 08/25/2005 1:58:22 PM PDT by prairiebreeze

The federal government is doing something right now that is exactly the opposite of what it should be doing. It is forgetting to think dark. It is forgetting to imagine the unimaginable.

Governments deal in data. People in government see a collection of data as something to be used, manipulated or ignored, but whatever they do with it, it's real. It's numbers on a page. You can point to them.

To think dark, on the other hand, takes imagination--and something more.

As adults living in the world, we know some things. As Murphy taught us, if it can go wrong, it will go wrong. As the journalist Harrison Salisbury said, in summing up what he'd learned in a lifetime observing history, "Expect the unexpected." As JFK taught us, "There's always some poor son of a bitch who doesn't get the word"--someone in the field who doesn't know what's going on and does exactly the wrong thing. As Ronald Reagan once said in conversation, man has never invented a weapon he didn't ultimately use. And as life has taught us since 9/11, we live in a dangerous age and the dangers aren't over, if they will ever be.

When you think dark, you're often and inescapably thinking with your gut, a vulgar way of referring to a certainty that lives somewhere between your spirit, soul and intellect. Your gut knows things your brain can't assert as fact because they're not facts, not yet. It can take guts to listen to your gut.

Right now the federal government is considering closing or consolidating hundreds of military bases throughout the U.S. A government commission is meeting this week to vote on specific base-closing proposals in the Pentagon's plan.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baseclosings; catastrophy; militarybases; terrorattack
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To: prairiebreeze

I trust the recommendations of Donald Rumsfeld far more than the new found military expertise of ole Peggy.


21 posted on 08/25/2005 2:15:53 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: prairiebreeze
It's a thought. Another point, and what I told my wife when she asked my opinion of the base closings, is political. I'm not convinced that the closings will in fact save all that their proponents project them to. But I am convinced that there will be a political cost to implementing them.

I just am not sure that this is the hill I want Republican Congressmen dying on.


22 posted on 08/25/2005 2:16:55 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Well, tell us what you think having a base nearby will protect you FROM?


23 posted on 08/25/2005 2:26:17 PM PDT by NetValue (No enemy has inflicted as much damage on America as liberals.)
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To: NetValue

Red Dawn


24 posted on 08/25/2005 2:30:18 PM PDT by Samwise ("You have the nerve to say that terrorism is caused by resisting it?")
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To: prairiebreeze
Gut feeling: this Administration with Secy Rumsfeld is best-equipped of any imaginable to go ahead and make tough changes. Closing these bases is part of cleaning out old cruft.

After some time, quite possibly we will have to open some new bases. But this present move won't have been a waste, because the new bases will have advantages (location and design) to fill the modern-times needs.

25 posted on 08/25/2005 2:30:23 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: nikos1121
I'm sure there is a lot of redundancy that may actually put at greater risk as we are spread too thin

Well, maybe. Modern conventional weapons and nuclear weapons are so destructive, however, that it is advantageous to be dispersed, where one strike doesn't get everyone.

A similar thing happened to cavalry with the invention of firearms. Cavalry was so effective because troops armed with spears, swords, and the like stood in rigid ranks and their ability to fight hinged on their ability to hold formation. Cavalry could disrupt these formations, thus diluting the formations firepower catastrophically. However, firearms made it possible for forces to operate dispersed but still concentrate their fire, and all that was needed for this was some basic communication. When this happened, cavalry quickly found itself with no lines to break; they could attack infantry but instead of breaking up their formation they would simply ride into the middle of the dispersed infantry and be massacred by a crossfire.

It's a function of how much you can concentrate your dispersed firepower and how quickly it can be done. And that depends on having good command and control. The US military has the best C&C in the world. I think largely dispersed, with a few large nodal reaction forces, would be the best way for us to be positioned.
26 posted on 08/25/2005 2:31:31 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: prairiebreeze

"We don't need them because we must never change the structure and operations of our defense system."

"This of course is pure guessing on my part. I can't prove it with data."

Thankfully the BRAC is not made up of people who think we must never change the structure and operations of our defense systems, and who have actual data to back up their position.


27 posted on 08/25/2005 2:31:35 PM PDT by Moral Hazard ("Now therefore kill every male among the little ones" - Numbers 31:17)
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To: prairiebreeze

Yesterday I was going to post a reply in exactly the same vein, wondering if I was the only one who was nervous about the proposed base closing. Once we close them, they won't be coming back. And if we need them?...


28 posted on 08/25/2005 2:32:21 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Eventually we will be forced to use nukes to protect ourselves.

If a Republican president used nukes, they would start impeachment proceedings the very next day. The cry would be heard around the world.

On the other hand, if a socialist democrat used nukes, he would be "brave" and "strong" and "disciplined" and "caring" and "thoughtful" when he used them.

29 posted on 08/25/2005 2:32:42 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Imperial Federal Government is your worst enemy! Don't give in to them!)
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To: NetValue

Bad guys, :^D.

I've decided it's something from my childhood, a sense of security at having all those bases around.

I'm glad I posted the article, I've gotten some good, sensible responses.


30 posted on 08/25/2005 2:34:03 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (We are grateful to our fine military. God bless them and their families.)
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To: r9etb
"Closing or realigning domestic military bases is really only a problem if you think you're gonna need those bases to defend the homeland in a ground war."

The American solution lies in something we do not hear much about these days: self-reliance.

Prepare now for the emergency you foresee. Self-defense, first aid, communications, warmth, food, water, fuel, light. Breathing filters, bio-suits, freeze-dried foods and MREs are widely available. Frankly, if your home is not self-defended already, it should be.

And if you want to help in the coming emergency, sign up with your local fire department for a great training program called CERT - Community Emergency Response Teams. (Grant funding is available from Homeland Security.) Take Red Cross training in First Aid. Learn to use your weapon as a TOOL to defend yourself, and your family. You may even buy a remote place to ride out the emergency far away from any city.

Be prepared. It's the Boy Scout Motto.

31 posted on 08/25/2005 2:39:41 PM PDT by NetValue (No enemy has inflicted as much damage on America as liberals.)
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To: RetiredArmy
On the other hand, if a socialist democrat used nukes, he would be "brave" and "strong" and "disciplined" and "caring" and "thoughtful" when he used them.

If Hillary gets in she will use them....it's her destiny to start the end of the world.

32 posted on 08/25/2005 2:40:26 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: prairiebreeze

Illegals could be housed on closed bases until we know if they are clear to enter. On the other hand, the way things are going, they could put us native-born Americans there until they decide what to do with us. I'm sure there's a use already being studied. I'm just not sure I have the stomach to find out what the final decision will be.


33 posted on 08/25/2005 2:42:33 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Internment camps. I've considered the need for them lately, not necessarily for illegals though. Hmm..


34 posted on 08/25/2005 2:44:47 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (We are grateful to our fine military. God bless them and their families.)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
"quite possibly we will have to open some new bases."

Think high above earth. Very high.

35 posted on 08/25/2005 2:45:14 PM PDT by NetValue (No enemy has inflicted as much damage on America as liberals.)
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To: prairiebreeze

I see we've thought exactly the same thing about this matter, prairie. This does not seem to be the time to consolidate bases. But I trust Rumsfeld and we shall have to wait and see.

Thinking "dark" isn't something I have a problem with most days and it's interesting Peggy chose that particular phrase.


36 posted on 08/25/2005 2:46:08 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Exactly. And when the dark times come, nobody's going to help us. We'll have to do it all, ourselves.


37 posted on 08/25/2005 2:49:43 PM PDT by hershey
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To: prairiebreeze

I honestly think we have more bases than we need, and that it's stupid to spend money on bases kept open mostly for political purposes when it could be spent on something more militarily useful.

Of course we should think dark, in the sense of being prepared for trouble. But trouble doesn't necessarily require more bases.


38 posted on 08/25/2005 2:52:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Peach

Well, I do worry about China. That said, having Rumsfeld, Bush, Rice and Cheney in charge is about as good as it gets IMO.


39 posted on 08/25/2005 2:52:45 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (We are grateful to our fine military. God bless them and their families.)
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To: EagleUSA
The base closings make me nervous.
Yes, and if anything, we should be building our military strength back up...

Base closings and military strength are not necessarily related. Many bases exist ONLY for political reasons and hurt, not help, our military. Imagine trying to run a business and you were required to have facilities located where politicians told you to have them, not where you actually need them....(We waste A LOT of money supporting bases that do NOTHING to defend our freedoms.)

40 posted on 08/25/2005 2:54:46 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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