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WSJ: Packing a Punch - Public sector unions are as strong, and harmful, as ever.
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 25, 2005 | TERRY M. MOE

Posted on 08/25/2005 6:03:09 AM PDT by OESY

It is a mistake to think that America's unions are in decline. Yes, the AFL-CIO is having its troubles....

Public sector unions, then, are not in decline at all. Indeed, they are extraordinarily powerful. They have many millions of members, they are loaded with money for campaigns and lobbying, and they have activists in virtually every political district in the country. No other interest groups can match their potent combination of money, manpower, and geographic dispersion. Ask Arnold Schwarzenegger. He has proposed reforms (of public employee pensions, of teacher tenure) that California's public sector unions fiercely oppose. And they have responded with onslaughts of negative ads, combined with noisy demonstrations at his public appearances, that have caused his popularity to plummet from stratospheric highs to abysmal lows....

The consequences are truly profound, because serious efforts to bring about better government are eviscerated for reasons that have nothing to do with what is best for the American public. Why has education reform proven so difficult over the last 20 years? A big reason: teacher unions have used their power to resist it every step of the way. Why is it so difficult to root out corruption and mismanagement of state prison systems? A big reason: prison guards have their own interests in how these systems are run, and their unions are very powerful.

We are faced with a true democratic dilemma. When any government hires employees, it gives birth to special interest groups that seek to exercise power over the government itself on behalf of employee interests. As governments grow over time, moreover, employee unions will get larger, better funded, and potentially more powerful. The problem is likely to get worse unless something is done about it.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: aflcio; influence; pharisee1; unions

1 posted on 08/25/2005 6:03:10 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

Public sector unions are morally indistinguishable from any other criminal conspiracy.


2 posted on 08/25/2005 6:05:24 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: OESY

NO public employee unions should be allowed. Period.


3 posted on 08/25/2005 6:05:58 AM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: headsonpikes
i am not totally against unions, as i see a need for them to provide a balance.

but when you look at what they are doing to this country, it's not hard to argue that they are doing more harm than good....

auto and airline industries are tanking..pressing for ever higher wages and perks, then complaining when the jobs go overseas.....

educational unions covering up for lousy workers, as if the welfare of kids should not be the focus of their jobs....shameless shilling for the left, but squeezing every last involuntary dime out of every member...

ugh.

4 posted on 08/25/2005 6:10:22 AM PDT by wildwood
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To: OESY

A substantial source of funding for Liberals was cut off when the Teamsters and SEIU broke away. Now, the AFL-CIO cannot use their dues as a source of funds for Hillary and the DNC. This is a big win.

Secondly, separating the private unions from the public unions gives the latter noone behind whom they can hide. The AFL-CIO is now essentially a union of government employees only. It is comparatively easy to impeach their credibility on any public policy issue; they're just trying to re-fill their public trough with slop.

So instead of an 800 pound gorilla, we have a 600 pound pink gorilla. That one is much easier to shoot down.


5 posted on 08/25/2005 6:15:34 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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To: Brad Cloven

If private business ran like the government, it would be out of business.


6 posted on 08/25/2005 6:21:38 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton, Jr.)
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To: headsonpikes
Unions are strong in the public sector because it is a (if not the) growth industry in America. We need to find a way to choke off the funds, shrink the government and eliminate about half of those jobs. Much easier to say than do but that is the only thing that will solve that problem.
7 posted on 08/25/2005 6:22:07 AM PDT by hometoroost (TSA = Thousands Standing Around)
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To: OESY

Why,in God's name,are government employees allowed to
unionize,anyway?


9 posted on 08/25/2005 6:34:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: OESY

There is no legitimate reason to have unions for government workers.


10 posted on 08/25/2005 6:35:07 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: OESY

Until government employees give our immigration laws the same respect they give our tax laws, America's private sector workers should give our tax laws the same respect government employees give our immigration laws.

I live a few miles from US Forest Service land. The fraud and corruption is staggering. Every day is a new and more disgusting episode of grab hold of the cash register and bleed the taxpayer for every penny they can get. And the mainstream media claims all the money these greedy crooks stuff in their pockets is welfare for local residents. Every local government in the US should be able to set up local federal grand juries so we can use the RICO act to shut down these criminal conspiracies to defraud taxpayers.


11 posted on 08/25/2005 6:43:36 AM PDT by yoswif
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To: OESY

Public sector unions should be ILLEGAL, they work for us, not some "evil" corporation making "profit".


12 posted on 08/25/2005 7:36:23 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: OESY

Interesting article. A government union will eventually swallow the whole of the government. It will become the government itself and it will set policy and make the laws. Very scary.


13 posted on 08/25/2005 7:49:51 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Why,in God's name,are government employees allowed to unionize,anyway?

Answer: Chapter 71 of Title 5 of the U.S. Code.

Oddly enough dated Oct 13 1978 - you might recall who was president at that time and who was in the majority in Congress then.

"5 USC 7101 -The congress finds that experience in both the private and public employment indicates that the statutory protection of the right of employees to organize, bargain collectively, and participate through labor unions of their own choosing in decisions which affect them:

A. safeguards the public interest

B. contributes to the effective conduct of public business

and

facilitates and encourages the amicable settlements of disputes between employees and their employers ....."

There's more but I'm feeling nauseous right now.

14 posted on 08/25/2005 8:47:28 AM PDT by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: OESY

RICO violations?


15 posted on 08/25/2005 4:20:27 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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