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New Eastern bloc will send Caspian oil to West, bypassing Russia, papers say
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| Wednesday, August 24, 2005
Posted on 08/24/2005 11:58:56 AM PDT by lizol
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Possible new pipelines
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posted on
08/24/2005 11:59:01 AM PDT
by
lizol
To: curiosity; little jeremiah; x5452; pravoslav; anonymoussierra; Robert Drobot; sharkhawk; ...
Eastern European ping list
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list
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posted on
08/24/2005 11:59:53 AM PDT
by
lizol
To: lizol
A pro western Pan-Slavic entity which excludes Russia should be created. Russia is dying anyway.
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:22:13 PM PDT
by
Ashamed Canadian
(Canada sucks - I should know, I live here!)
Comment #4 Removed by Moderator
To: vox_PL
I don't know about RusIvan, but personally I think that Russia and the neighborhood (Ukraine, Poland, etc.) should not be entangled with each other over oil and gas.
Let Russia have the ability to deliver through multiple routes its energy to whoever pays the proper price and let Poland, Ukraine and other heavy dependents on Russian Energy sources have the diverse supplies of this energy (including outside of Russia) so nobody is holding all the cards and energy deliveries and prices are dictated strictly by market conditions and needs--not threatened by Kremlin whims or political preferences.
Than everybody will be happy (I hope) -:))))
Let's diversify energy delivery routes !!!
P.S. US needs too to end its entangelement with Saudi Arabia. No more support to Islamic Terror chief sponsors.
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posted on
08/24/2005 1:06:38 PM PDT
by
sergey1973
(Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
To: sergey1973; lizol; Lukasz
thank you all
"In most of gas pipelines as well as oil pipelines go through us. In do so we charge transit access. Russian and Germany want to built new pipeline>Germany in Baltic Sea. In fore; transit money will be eliminated: fore Germany will built pipelines to Western Europe. We'll go and built new pipeline which will by pass Russia; and help Ukraine and other nations. Two can play this game :}}}}}}
thank you
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posted on
08/24/2005 1:36:08 PM PDT
by
anonymoussierra
(Nie b¹dŸ pochopny w duchu do gniewu, bo gniew przebywa w piersi g³upców)
Comment #7 Removed by Moderator
To: lizol
China, No Oil for you.
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posted on
08/24/2005 2:07:54 PM PDT
by
Mike Darancette
(Mesocons for Rice '08)
To: vox_PL
"Is this to mean that the spectrum of the medieval Commonwealth returns?! "
I doubt that it's possible to resurrect something that is gone centuries ago in the modern era. You can't step twice into the same river. Everybody will have good neighborly relations--that's it.
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posted on
08/24/2005 2:20:15 PM PDT
by
sergey1973
(Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
To: lizol
speed Caspian oil to the WestGreat !
The sooner that the Caspian Basin is brought on line, the better for all concerned.
Who will be financing and constructing the pipelines?
Is the political situation in Georgia stable enough to permit construction at this time?
To: lizol
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posted on
08/24/2005 2:55:38 PM PDT
by
Quinotto
(On matters of style swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
To: Freebird Forever
The Nabucco pipeline project is supported by European Union. Its business-plan is supposed to be ready this year, and the pipeline itself - in 5 years (the cost about 5,5 up to o 7 billion Euro).
The second project - "Sarmacki" - is a jont Polish and Ukrainian idea. Polish authorities will try to push it on EU agenda too (the cost about 2,8 up to 4 billion Euro).
Polish PGNiG (Polish Oil and Gas) Company, Ukrainian Naftohas and Gas de France are interested in constructing them.
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posted on
08/24/2005 3:10:21 PM PDT
by
lizol
To: Quinotto
Now you know why Putin and his Ukrainian bitches tried to murder Yuschenko.
To: Proud_USA_Republican
Once a communist, always a communist.
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posted on
08/24/2005 3:23:53 PM PDT
by
Quinotto
(On matters of style swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
To: vox_PL; ValenB4; anonymoussierra; zagor-te-nej; Freelance Warrior; kedr; Sober 4 Today; ...
Don't worry, in under two years the new gas line by passing Poland and heading to Germany will be ready. You will no longer have to have any Russian gas pass over your land. You'll be free from what you hate. Of course your coffers will be empty and your homes cold, but its a small price to pay to feed your black hatred. Don't you agree?
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posted on
08/24/2005 10:00:50 PM PDT
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: sergey1973
I admire your ability to continue to try to reason with people like vox_PL and his ilk, even when all you get back is pure hatred, but allas my friend, that's all there is. They hate you, they hate you with every evil atom in their hate filled souls, no less then the Arab hates the Jew (which is interesting since Arab and Jews are of the same race, semites, rather similiar don't you agree?) and no matter what you say or do, short of hating or killing your own or even better just dieing off, nothing will make them respect or like you.
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posted on
08/24/2005 10:03:26 PM PDT
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: vox_PL
What a nice photo of a pair of leftist socialists. How fitting. What's your unemployment rate again (18.9%)? I guess when you're to busy filled with hatred, you have no time to make jobs.
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posted on
08/24/2005 10:05:24 PM PDT
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: vox_PL
That Georgian man is simply the best looking of the lot, hands down.
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posted on
08/24/2005 10:09:59 PM PDT
by
MarMema
To: jb6
Georgia has lots of jobs right now, but they mostly seem to have been created by other countries.
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posted on
08/24/2005 10:10:53 PM PDT
by
MarMema
To: MarMema
Two interesting facts:
1)1 mln Georgian citizens work in Russia
2)The Georgian government is (or at least was) on Soros's payroll. They receive the wages from him, not from the tax money.
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