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Intelligent Design Revisited (D Limbaugh)
Human Events Online ^ | 8-22-05 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 08/24/2005 10:47:29 AM PDT by joyspring777

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To: RobRoy

When you can't deal with an argument...

call them dumb, then dumber...

It didn't work on Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2?

It doesn't fly anymore in this sphere either!


281 posted on 08/24/2005 6:25:05 PM PDT by joyspring777
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To: RussP
You've just paraphrased the old "watch on the beach" analogy. However, there is nothing in DNA, or anywhere in any biological construct discovered so far that says, "I've been created."

Indeed, this is simply an argument from astonishment. This is, of course, a logical fallacy.

282 posted on 08/24/2005 6:26:35 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: Coyoteman

Guy:

The fossil record is your biggest problem!!!!!!!


283 posted on 08/24/2005 6:28:31 PM PDT by joyspring777
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To: Junior
... so therefore at least some of the Odyssey is true.

Fool! It's all a single work. Large parts have been proven true. Scientifically proven! If you doubt some of it, you doubt it all. Woe unto you. Zeus doesn't like being mocked.

284 posted on 08/24/2005 6:30:21 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: RussP

Check out my Denton link

http://home.wxs.nl/~gkorthof/kortho29.htm


285 posted on 08/24/2005 6:30:54 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: joyspring777
Why don't we find irrefutable evidence of things that are over 10,000 years, 20,000 years?

We do.

Once again, you might want to actually research the answer to your questions before asking them. Five minutes on Google will save you lots of embarrasment.

286 posted on 08/24/2005 6:31:27 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: joyspring777
Please...we have historical evidence for Lincoln, Jesus Christ, etc.

Nope. We have writings that claim they existed. We also have writings that claim Circe existed.

287 posted on 08/24/2005 6:34:47 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: Junior

So you think...I suggest you just not post responses to me!


288 posted on 08/24/2005 6:36:06 PM PDT by joyspring777
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To: joyspring777
As you wish. If I were being trounced in an online debate, I'd not want to be posted to by the trouncer again either.

Consider yourself on Virtual Ignore.

289 posted on 08/24/2005 6:39:08 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: Junior

"You've just paraphrased the old "watch on the beach" analogy. However, there is nothing in DNA, or anywhere in any biological construct discovered so far that says, "I've been created.""

Nor was there anything in my hypothetical message on the beach that says, "I've been created." In fact, the basic laws of physics do not preclude the message from occurring by random chance, with no intelligent design. Does that prove that it happened that way? Of course not.

After all is said and done, the argument for evolution boils down to this: the seemingly intelligent message on the beach *could have* happened by random chance, therefore we have no need for an intelligent writer of the message. He is superfluous.

By the way, the last time I got hooked into one of these evolution debates I posed a question for the evolutionists, but it was never answered. I'll pose it again, but I do not expect it to be answered this time either.

Evolution supposedly works by the effect of "natural selection" on random mutations. Here's the $64,000,000 question: What is the approximate ratio of harmful to beneficial mutations (for any species at any time anywhere)?

If you can't answer that question, then your theory doesn't have a leg to stand on. And if the answer is something like 1,000,000:1, it still doesn't have a leg to stand on.


290 posted on 08/24/2005 6:55:28 PM PDT by RussP
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To: Junior

I hardly feel trounced, I just think you play too much, and your arguments are silly.

I wouldn't say it publicly...but you asked for it lightweight!

Later gator!


291 posted on 08/24/2005 6:55:38 PM PDT by joyspring777
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To: RussP

You asked for a Denton Link.

http://home.wxs.nl/~gkorthof/kortho29.htm


292 posted on 08/24/2005 7:08:54 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: joyspring777

Creosote bush and Aspen

Botanical Record-Breakers (Part 1 of 2)
Address:http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ww0601.htm

see also post 274


293 posted on 08/24/2005 7:12:48 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Junior
Silly, silly goose!
</twit mode>
294 posted on 08/24/2005 7:16:14 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: Quark2005

meant to ping you to post 293


295 posted on 08/24/2005 7:18:27 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Junior

Evolutionist "reasoning":

On Monday: The Theory of Intelligent Design is not falsifiable, therefore it is not a valid scientific theory.

On Tuesday: The Theory of Intelligent Design has been disproven and discredited.

Premise: If any God or any "intelligent designer" exists, He/It is beyond the realm and scope of science.

Conclusion: The existence of an intelligent designer is unnecessary to explain life.

Hey, wait a minute! The premise and the conclusion look suspiciously alike!


296 posted on 08/24/2005 7:21:24 PM PDT by RussP
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To: Junior

Something I've alwas suspected is that evolution opponents lack imagination and playfulness. At least some are willing to admit it.


297 posted on 08/24/2005 7:22:27 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: RussP

To the extent that ID has made actual claims -- irreducible complexity -- they have been disproven.

The persistence of the claim for irreducible complexity suggest that nothing can falsify ID.


298 posted on 08/24/2005 7:26:54 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: From many - one.

Comparative anatomy might be out too.


299 posted on 08/24/2005 7:42:36 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: VadeRetro
Only common descent makes sense. "Common designer" doesn't cut it.

Could the "errors" be preparation for a future step in evolution? Rhetorical question, as neither evolution, nor ID can make that prediction. The designer could be prepping life for a future change on earth. After the change comes life will be able to adapt to it, instead of getting wiped out and/or having to start over at all "lower" forms.

300 posted on 08/24/2005 7:43:02 PM PDT by GoLightly
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