Posted on 08/24/2005 7:46:49 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
Hilary's peps are going to be very unhappy with anyone who keeps repeating this in the MSM.
Welcome to the US. You can say that kind of stuff here.
The point is that Patterson is supposed to be a religious figure. Casually talking about rubbing problematic people out is better suited to gangsters and not someone who wants credibility as a religious leader.
He dropped the ball on this and made conservative christians (and social conservatives on balance) look bad.
How about:
1. Immediate elimination of any barriers between Intelligence/Counterintelligence/Law Enforcement
2. Profiling
3. Round-ups of all illegals with subsequent interrogation - deportation.
Furthermore, outlaw and roundup any and all Muslim Clerics who support or call for jihad against us (notice I did NOT call for the outlawing of Islam per se!)
4. Close the Borders
5. Immediate suspension of relations with Iran, Syria, N. Korea (and others) - subsequent suspension of relations with any country that refuses to suspend relations with the forgoing (repeat as necessary) This is what GWB called for (either with us or with the terrorists) but has yet to implement.
This would do MUCH more than the patriot act, and would violate no-ones rights in the process. Even point 2 above is not a violation - profiling merely sorts out potential terrorists from the rest and best allows the services charged with investigating terrorists to concentrate thier efforts on lucrative targets instead of old ladies, young children, etc...
Gotto run for the day, but will pick this up later if you desire to continue . . . .
NO.
What you meant to say was,
"Welcome to the FreeRepublic. You can say that kind of stuff here."
In the US public education and mainstream media, you CAN'T say that kind of stuff here.
i would love to continue but by the time you return this thread will be dead (fizzle out, I mean). Intersting turn, though.
Funny that the give-peace-a-chance liberals would be first in line to promote assassination, the draft, torture. Remember when the Dems came out in favor of the draft recently? Its not that far back that some Dems were suggesting that torture might be justifiable.
What makes the difference is who is wielding the cat-o-nine-tails. If a sparrow falls to earth during a Republican Administration, we already know that Republican fat-cats conspired to make it so. But people can drop like flies around a Democratic president, federal agents can incinerate women and children, and Democrat journalists will fall all over themselves reporting scandal sheet nonsense while what actually happened, what these people actually did, what they actually stand for, all gets flushed right down the memory hole.
A Russian and an American (back in the 70-ies) discuss degree of freedom they enjoy in their respecive countries. The American says: we have a lot of freedom, I can come out into the street and say "President Carter is a fool". Big deal, says the Russian, I can do that too, I can come out into the street and say "President Carter is a fool".
So, you see, we could say stuff too back there and then. :-)
Maybe. But in fact, unlike Soviet Russia, the US does not have a blacklist of books and does not imprison anyone for writing or reading proscribed literature. That most certainly separated the US from Soviet Russia and he is mistaken to believe that only broadcast media is representative of freedom of speech in this country. Our libraries are and were always open and free.
I heard that one too, but (and here's how old I am) when I heard it, it was about Kennedy
threads here on Free Republic never die, although the Mod's do have a tendency to ZOT the undesirable ones . . .
So, feel free to continue!!
Maybe it's because all Russian political jokes wer made up by Russian defectors to the West.
Good.
Who would shoot a nice lady like Evita Peron?
No kidding.
Even in wartime, assassination is tricky. The decision to shoot down Yamamoto's airplane, when his itinerary was discovered through breaking the Japanese code, was approved by President Roosevelt. No one at a lower level was willing to make the decision. They all bucked it higher.
However, assassination in peacetime is a lot more tricky. What happens if the plot is discovered before the attempt is made? What happens if the attempt is successful but the plot is broken afterwards? The nation whose leader was assassinated might well take it as an act of war, precipitating the war the assassination was supposed to prevent.
It's worth noting that Hitler survived at least five and maybe more attempted assassinations. All but two were either discovered ahead of time, or aborted because the assassins found Hitler was too well guarded. The two attempts that were actually carried out (the Beer Hall Bomb and the Generals' Bomb) failed for various reasons. Hitler is probably the purest example of what in retrospect would appear to be a justifiable assassination, yet the difficulty of carrying it out provides a useful lesson.
Another lesson is that of the successful assassination of Reinhardt Heydrich by a group of Czech commandos. He was replaced by someone who was even worse, and several thousand people were executed or (in the case of Jews) "sent East" as a result of the successfull assassination. The village of Lidice was wiped out completely, and everyone in it executed.
All these things need to be taken into account when someone talks glibly of assassinating a foreign leader.
If forced into a bloody war or faced with the death of your nation or way of life, you might still hold your chin up high with the knowledge that at least you followed the "standards of international conduct" on the way towards your extinction...not me though.
If the "standard of international conduct" will lead to bloody war, it is the peacemaker who doesn't abide by this standard.
"Standards of international conduct" can be put in place to empower the Hitlers and Husseins. You can count on that being the case when you have corrupt organizations like the UN devising these standards.
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