Posted on 08/24/2005 7:10:18 AM PDT by Pharmboy
LOS ANGELES (AP) - The FBI has launched an inquiry into the activities of a grocery store owner who is allegedly the U.S. leader of a radical Islamic group banned in parts of Europe and the Middle East, authorities said. Iyad Hilal, an Islamic author and philosopher who owns an Orange County market, hasn't drawn much attention to his writings or his role in the group, Hizb ut-Tahrir, which means Party of Liberation.
But since the July 7 bombings in London, British Prime Minister Tony Blair has suggested banning the group there.
Hilal is apparently not suspected of any terrorist acts, but FBI terrorism investigators want to know more about his and the group's activities.
FBI spokeswoman Cathy Viray declined to call it an investigation but confirmed that "we're looking into the matter." She declined to comment further.
Hilal, 56, has lived in the United States for about 20 years and is an Islamic scholar whose writings argue that the religion is not compatible with democracy.
Georgetown University professor John Esposito, author of "Unholy War on Terror in the Name of Islam," said the group saw most Muslim countries as not following Islamic law.
"Theirs is a rigorous, hard-line view of the kind of government they want to see implemented in Muslim countries," he said. "To them democracy is a good thing for the West, but Islam doesn't need it."
The group advocates a return to the days when all Muslims were governed by a religious leader known as the caliph.
In a 1992 essay, Hilal wrote that Western countries contradicted the teachings of Islam.
Salam Al-Marayati, spokesman for the Muslim Public Affairs Council in Los Angeles, said he did not believe Hizb ut-Tahrir advocated terrorism in the United States, but said he was not surprised the FBI was looking into the group.
"People in Washington think that those who want an Islamic state are terrorists. That's not always the case," Marayati said.
Radical cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, former head of Hizb ut-Tahrir in England, identified Hilal as leader of the U.S. branch in a 2004 interview with the Terrorism Monitor, published by the Jamestown Foundation in Washington.
Busy hugging as many anti-America/anti-Israel, marxist/nazis as they can. . .
That enough to ship him out!
We KNOOOW that!
I agree with this guy: Islam is most definitely "not compatible" with democracy.
Yep...and I hear the meals are yummy!
Hardly compatible with CIVILIZATION, much less democracy...
Agreed, and yet we still allow muslims to immigrate here legally (not to mention the jihadis that are sneaking over our porous borders)...
Oh yes it is.
Islam has no qualms whatsoever about using force if necessary in order to expand. That is a historical fact. The only time islam has had a quiescent period is after a great and decisive military defeat.
Shari'a Law and Constitutional Republics are antithecal, contradictory, irreconcilable. Did I say mutually exclusive?
I would allow islam to expand in my country by persuasion, but if and only if all 58 islamic countries did likewise with other religions.
Wish I knew how I did that...
My view is that islam can't be spread without violence or the threat of violence, and that's why it's so intolerant.
We were just talking about this guy after the John Loftus appearance on KFI's John and Ken show last week!
And he owns a produce store?
See this:
what's the address?
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LAGUNA BEACH CALIFORNIA
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Michael Webster: Publisher mvwsr@aol.com (949) 494-7121 www.michaelwebster.net
Terrorist Cell and Terrorist Recruiter in Orange CountyMichael Webster: Investigative ReporterJohn Loftus said on the live national radio talk show coast to coast with host George Noory, he stated, " I know for sure that a Terrorist cell is operating in Orange County Mosques and is recruiting young Moslems." Its also believed both American born and non- American born youth are receiving terrorist training. Mr. Loftus claims that the cell is operating openly and freely with no apparent investigation by law enforcement. This is potentially a very dangerous situation that needs attention by Federal, State and Local law enforcement. Its believed to be a large cell operating with a number of locally recruited and trained terrorist who could strike anywhere at anytime if unabated. John Loftus has more inside information on the terrorists abroad and at home, and asks, "When are we going to wake up?" In June, he warned of the London bombings, and now has more on what we can expect in our country and right here in Orange County John Loftus is President of the IntelligenceSummit.org, and can be heard weeknights on ABC's John Batchelor program. John said, I hate to say this, but I think the FBI has been asleep at the switch. A lot of people, including my private investigator Bill Warner, who I think is the best PI in America, have said there's been a real problem with the FBI leadership in Washington. People can't get search warrants in time. If it happens outside the FBI, it doesn't get pursued. If it's not invented here, it's not touched, it's put on the back burner. Unfortunately, we're in a position where we can't allow that kind of luxury any more. Because the same organizations in the United States are directly linked to the ones in London that just pulled off the subway bombings. Al-Muhajiroun According to John Al-Muhajiroun are here in America, and the successor organizations. These groups have been desecrating the American flag, and have demanded an Islamic nation in the United States. Hizb al-Tahrir And al-Tahrir Connecting The Dots So it can now be presumed that Al-Muhajiroun and Hizb al-Tahrir.has cells in at least New York, England, Germany and Orange County California. Al-Muhajiroun and Hizb al-Tahrir were the parent organization, of the Finsbury Mosque, they were the London subway bombers. Their leadership in New York was responsible for planning the subway bombings. And that there sister organizations are Hizb al-Tahrir and al-Tahrir if you will, is the operational or training arm, and Al-Muhajiroun is the recruiting arm. Add that the Russian Secret Service says that Hizb al-Tahrir is the secret radical arm of the Muslim brotherhood... and the new elected leader of the terrorist group Hizb al-Tahrir in America is allegedly Iyad Kilal, and that he lives in La Habra in Orange County, California. And that he has direct ties with the same groups in London and the Islamic Thinkers Society in New York. Iyad Kilal, is also called Abu Tarik. MOSQUES Orange County's Mosques that Iyad Kilal, also called Abu Tarik may have instructed or attended are: Islamic Educational Center of Orange County Costa Mesa , Darul-Uloom, Santa Ana , and OCI Foundation, Mission Viejo. Attempted contact of the above Orange County Mosques by phone was made by the Journal and were answered by machines. By publishing time no return calls had been received by the Journal. LEADERS CHARGED WITH PROTECTING US AGAINST TERRORIST ATTACKS FBI Director Mueller An attempt was made to contact the Local FBI by phone at their offices in Santa Ana California. The Journal was directed by a answering machine to call the L.A. FBI office. Which we did. A male voice answered. The Journal reporter Identified himself and asked to talk with an FBI agent. The reporter had to ask several times if he was speaking to an FBI agent. After several minutes he was finally transferred to who claimed to be the FBI Duty Agent. The FBI Duty Agent said, he did not know of this terrorist cell nor had he heard of Iyad Kilal, also called Abu Tarik. The Journal then offered the information and content of this story. The Duty agent took the information reluctantly and without further inquiry. Willie Hulon, According to Willie Hulon, Assistant Director of Counterterrorism Division's web page stated "the FBI is part of a vast national and international campaign dedicated to defeating terrorism. Working hand-in-hand with partners in law enforcement, intelligence, the military, and diplomatic circles, our job is to neutralize terrorist cells and operatives here in the U.S. and to help dismantle terrorist networks worldwide. " However if the press or the public can't reach them to report terror, and if they show little or no interest. How will they be able to accomplish their mission and protect American citizens. I can't help but wonder had this been an terrorist related life threatening emergency how could it had worked any better?
- Federal Bureau of Investigation Home Page
Homeland Security Office has not returned our calls as of yet. More then 72 hours has past with no response from DHS. http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?theme=29
The Journal was able to contact the Orange County Sheriff's office Sunday and spoke with watch commander Lt. Boyne, who said he did not know of the Terrorist cell in question. However he was the 1st law enforcement officer that showed any interest and did take the information. Sheriff's Terrorism Commentary
Orange County Sheriff Michael S. Carona The La Habra Police Chief Dennis Kis said, his dept through one of his watch commanders received a tip in the form of a phone call from a resident of Marina del Rey about a week ago. The Gerry street address was then checked out by his officers and the subject in question was not living there. And the chief was not sure if the subject had lived there at any time in the past. "there is a couple living there now and they checked out OK. However we did turn the matter over to the joint FBI task force on terrorism." He also said, he believed the couple was recently on the popular John and Ken radio talk show on a LA radio station KFI. He believes the task force will keep him informed or if they need his help they will contact his dept. John Loftus as a former Justice Department prosecutor, John Loftus once held some of the highest security clearances in the world, with special access to NATO Cosmic, CIA codeword, and Top Secret Nuclear files. As a private attorney, he works without charge to help hundreds of intelligence agents obtain lawful permission to declassify and publish the hidden secrets of our times. He is the author of four history books, three of which have been made into films, two were international best sellers, and one was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize. John Loftus can be reached at http://www.john-loftus.com / This is a developing story. Iyad Hilal if your reading this I would like to interview you and hear your side. Anyone with reliable information on this story contact the Laguna Journals investigative reporter Michael Webster at wibcom@aol.com Related history of Islamic Brother lyad Hilal and the alleged new elected leader in America of the terrorist group Hizb al-Tahrir and that it is believed he lives in Orange County, California. :
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People in Washington think that those who jump from airplanes with faulty parachutes are going to go splat. That's not always the case.
Thanks for the link, Ernest.
and DFU had that thread pulled
What address, ...the grocery store?
What address, ...the grocery store?
yep!
A colorful, Andalusian-style minaret was hoisted up and slipped into place Tuesday morning at the Islamic Institute of Orange County in Anaheim.
The Orange County Register
A 38-foot minaret was hoisted Tuesday atop the newly completed Omar Al Farouk Mosque at the Islamic Institute of Orange County in Anaheim. It is covered in a 1,200-year-old pattern created from Moroccan tiles. Traditionally, minarets are used to call the faithful to prayer and are the most widely recognized symbol of an Islamic house of worship. About 170,000 Muslims live in Orange County, with many living in the Anaheim area. About 1,200 are part of the community around the IIOC.
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