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Bush is bankrupting the conservative movement
MatthewStinson.net ^ | 08.22.05 | Matthew Stinson

Posted on 08/24/2005 1:15:06 AM PDT by Dr. Marten

Conservative lawblogger Stephen Bainbridge is getting a lot of what they call in Washington “strange new respect” for his strongly-worded criticism of the President’s international and domestic policies. While liberals like Kevin Drum’s commenters are quick to gloat about Bainbridge’s lament, and more tellingly, some Bush backers have accused Bainbridge of recycling leftist cant, Bainbridge has rather solidly made a conservative — not leftist, not paleocon — case against President Bush:

It’s time for us conservatives to face facts. George W. Bush has pissed away the conservative moment by pursuing a war of choice via policies that border on the criminally incompetent. We control the White House, the Senate, the House of Representatives, and (more-or-less) the judiciary for one of the few times in my nearly 5 decades, but what have we really accomplished? Is government smaller? Have we hacked away at the nanny state? Are the unborn any more protected? Have we really set the stage for a durable conservative majority?

He continues with a critique of the shifting rationales for the Iraq War and asks,

…if Iraq’s alleged WMD programs were the casus belli, why aren’t we at war with Iran and North Korea? Not to mention Pakistan, which remains the odds-on favorite to supply the Islamofascists with a working nuke. If Saddam’s cruelty to his own people was the casus belli, why aren’t we taking out Kim Jong Il or any number of other nasty dictators? Indeed, what happened to the W of 2000, who correctly proclaimed nation building a failed cause and an inappropriate use of American military might? And why are we apparently going to allow the Islamists to write a more significant role for Islamic law into the new Iraqi constitution? If throwing a scare into the Saudis was the policy, so as to get them to rethink their deals with the jihadists, which has always struck me as the best rationale for the war, have things really improved on that front?

Though Bainbridge is spot-on in his analysis of the terrible miscalculations made by Bush and Rumsfeld during the war in Iraq, I take issue with his characterization of the war as the reason Bush and the Republican Party have abandoned domestic conservatism. In fact, a strong case can be made that Bush, Rove, and Congressional Republicans had no intention to advance a domestic conservative agenda in the first place.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: ohioWfan

If confused people knew they were confused, they wouldn't be so confused.


221 posted on 08/26/2005 7:58:04 AM PDT by altura
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To: altura; Dr. Marten
LOL! I just want to know what I was talking about when I wasn't talking about what I was talking about.....

If he would just answer that, then he could go on being confused, and I wouldn't care. :)

222 posted on 08/26/2005 8:08:43 AM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: ohioWfan
"I'm still waiting (a day after I asked) to find out the answer to where or when I made reference to "GLPS" (which I confess to still not knowing what it is)."

FOLLOW 'THIS LINK', MAYBE IT WILL HELP REFRESH YOUR MEMORY. YOUR REFERENCE TO GLPS IS RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE.

"And I also want to know what your histrionics about tomatoes directed at me was all about."

THE TOMATOES ARE A DIRECT REFERENCE TO THE RELATIVE TOPIC AT HAND. GOSH YOU HAVE A SHORT MEMORY.
223 posted on 08/29/2005 3:14:39 AM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: Dr. Marten
I don't have a short memory. One cannot remember what one never heard about. But thanks for not answering my questions.

I will henceforth disregard what you say, since you have made accusations which make no sense, and then refused to clarify after repeated requests (I'm quite sure you have me confused with another poster, but aren't willing to admit your mistake).

You said I brought a subject up that I clearly did NOT, and when I asked you where or when, and you couldn't answer (because I in fact didn't bring it up), you evaded and accused.

After all this time that you've had to come up with a direct reply, you come back to insult and evade once again.

Back to the issue. The idea that President Bush is 'bankrupting' the conservative movement is utterly preposterous. This now dated article is absurd and nonsensical...........which is why, I assume, you posted it.

224 posted on 08/29/2005 6:08:36 AM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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