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Bush is bankrupting the conservative movement
MatthewStinson.net ^ | 08.22.05 | Matthew Stinson

Posted on 08/24/2005 1:15:06 AM PDT by Dr. Marten

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To: ohioWfan

SO YOU SAY.

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO MADE REFERENCE TO GLPS, BUT HEY, WHAT DO I KNOW.


161 posted on 08/24/2005 11:12:07 AM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: burrian
Thanks for the ping, burrian.

But, I'll take a rain check. Increasingly, I find FR a disappointing and disheartening place to visit. (Just look at the posts preceding your ping to me.)

Sadly, FR has pretty much devolved into a laboratory of robots contesting with their opponents by use of mindless insults, relentlessly repeated, and often with little or no relation to the topic at hand.

If you find a good forum for exchange of conservative ideas and principles please FReepmail me.

162 posted on 08/24/2005 11:51:28 AM PDT by iconoclast (2008 can't come soon enough.)
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To: Dr. Marten
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO MADE REFERENCE TO GLPS, BUT HEY, WHAT DO I KNOW.

Where? When?

163 posted on 08/24/2005 11:52:36 AM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: iconoclast; burrian
Sage advice from one who called women who support the War in Iraq as "dumb cows."

You obviously know nothing about "mindless insults," do you, iconoclast?

164 posted on 08/24/2005 11:55:06 AM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So, you really don't know why we're in Iraq? If you have a copy of Bush's UN speech or his 2nd State of the Union all of the reasons are there and only one of the reasons was WMD. Looks like the left's proaganda machine is working on you. Pity.


165 posted on 08/24/2005 12:04:51 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Dr. Marten

Who is this Bainbridge twit anyway? Sounds like he may need a loyalty lesson. Things are going great for the real Americans in the party. We've got a bunch of terrorists cornered over there and Hell a'int near full, so let's stay as long as it takes!


166 posted on 08/24/2005 12:15:38 PM PDT by George Creel (Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out!)
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To: Deb
The hard right gets its info about the war from the MSM, not from the President himself.

If they paid any attention to what he actually has said, they wouldn't share the anti-war stance of the left.

btw, by all accounts the President's speech in Idaho today was great. I'm going to try to catch a replay of it somewhere.

167 posted on 08/24/2005 12:37:51 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: ohioWfan; KeyWest; Dr. Marten

Presidency of George W. Bush -- the first 48 months

 


President Bush signing a federal ban on Partial Birth Abortion

Banned Partial Birth Abortion

Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy

Stopped foreign aid that would be used to fund abortions.

Supported and upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals

Signed E.O. reversing Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act

Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty

Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court

Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California

Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules that would have shut down every home business in America


First Missile is Installed For NMD on July 23, 2004

Killed the U.S. - CCCP ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses


Built ten ABM silos in Alaska and California so that America has a defense against North Korean nukes

The Commercial Space Launch Amendments Act (less romantically known as H.R. 5382) ultimately allows average Americans to hitch a ride on a civilian space craft at their own risk. The federal ban on such citizen travel was repealed by HR 5382 in 2004. The President signed that bill into law two days before Christmas.

President Bush pledged to Israel on 4/14/2004 that it could keep parts of the West Bank, giving international legitimacy to Jewish settlements there

Denied Palestinian refugees any right of return to what is now Israel, saying they should be resettled in a future Palestinian state instead

Part of coalition (Russia, Israel, EU, Palestine, USA) for Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace"

Pushed through THREE raises for our military

Increased Defense Dept funding which had deteriorated during the previous 8 years

President Bush's Grand Strategy (click here)

President Bush's Environmental Record - 2004 (click here)

Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit

Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers

Ordered Attorney-General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, NOT a leftist-imagined *collective* right


Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e. the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty)

Signed the 2004 Omnibus Budget 1/26/2004 that now MANDATES that gun buyers' background check information be fully and permanently destroyed within 24 hours of the completion of the check, no matter what.

Repealed Gun Controls Against Active, Retired, and Off-Duty Law Enforcement Personnel Carrying Weapons Into Local and State Prohibited Zones (7/28/2004)

Enacted powerful tort reform legislation that moves many class action lawsuits from state to federal courts. Requires federal courts to hear cases where the amount of the dispute is more than $5 million, and when the defendant and any of the plaintiffs live in different states.


Disarmed Libya of its Chemical, Nuclear, and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed

Won an agreement that U.S. Navy sailors may now freely board thousands of commercial ships in international waters to search for weapons of mass destruction under a landmark pact between the United States and Liberia, the world's No. 2 shipping registry (signed Feb 11, 2004), and Panama 5/10/2004 http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/11/international/americas/11ship.html).

Approves The First U.S. Counter-Intel Plan

Successfully executed 2 wars and rebuilt 2 nations: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50+ million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom...epitomized by their own free and democratic elections.

Provided Billions in aid, machines, and manpower to tsunami victims.

 

Executed a WAR ON TERROR by getting world-wide cooperation to track funds/terrorists (has cut off much of the terrorist's funding and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network)

Bush Administration diplomacy led to the 5/25/2004 peace accord that ended a massive 20-year civil war between Sudan's Islamic north and Christian south after two million deaths Click Here

  Delivered vital emergency aid to millions of survivors on multiple continents (e.g. Africa, SE Asia) of a devastating Tsunami caused by a 9.1 earthwuake near Sumatra.

Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed

Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.

Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia

Initiated comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE was critical.
Created NATO's Rapid Response Force

Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the Presidency

Reorganized bureaucracy...after 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency: the Department of Homeland Security.

Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.

Improving govt. efficiency with .8 million jobs put up for bid...weakening unions and cutting undeserved pay raises. Wants merit based promotions/raises only.

Orchestrated Republican control of the White House, the House AND the Senate.

Killed the liberal ABA's role in vetting federal judges for Congress.

GWB signed an executive order enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision (re: union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes)

Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession.

Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

Signed 2 income tax cuts ---- 1 of which was the largest Dollar-value tax cut in world history

Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains

In process of eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people

Eliminated the Estate Tax (AKA "Death Tax") that was taking small farms and businesses from families


Signed into law the No Child Left Behind legislation delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations)

Reorganized the INS in an attempt to safeguard the borders and ports of America and to eliminate bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.

Signed trade promotion authority

Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men and women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa

Passed Medicare Reform (authorized $39.5 Billion per year for preventive medicine such as drugs and doctor visits as well as included a ten year Privatization option)

Urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits

Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims


Submitted comprehensive Energy Plan--awaits Congressional action (works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.)

Endorses and promotes The Responsibility Era ("In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else -- to one in which every single American understands that he or she are responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself. " -----this quote was too good to leave out)

Started the USA Freedom Corps

Initiated review of all federal agencies with a goal to eliminate federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of federal gov while increasing private sector jobs.

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become The League of Nations ( in other words, completely irrelevant)

Nominated strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.


President Bush opened up an additional part of Alaska for domestic oil drilling. In 2004, the National Petroleum Reserve, an area west of the existing Prudhoe Bay field, was approved for new energy exploration and production.

Increased U.S. Oil Drilling Permits 70% Above Clinton-era

Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary clean-up of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.

As part of the national forests clean-up, the President restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges) and removed the need for an EIS (Environmental Impact Statement) before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.
New Forest Rules Gives States Power Over Federal Forests Inside Their Borders
Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.

President Bush signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal Aliens
S. 1685, the Basic Pilot Extension Act of 2003, was signed by President Bush on December 3, 2003.
It extends for five years the workplace employment eligibility authorization pilot programs created in 1996. It expands the pilot programs from the original five states to all 50 states.


U.S. Forces In Baghdad


2nd Term Supplimental (incomplete)


Broke the Chinese Yuan to Dollar currency peg
CAFTA - President Bush signing CAFTA

Bolton to the UN
Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the second group of eight ABM silos in Alaska and California so that America has a land-based defense (in addition to our sea-based SM-3 and AEGIS systems) of 18 ABM's against North Korean nukes (note: China itself currently only has 24 -out of several hundred- nuclear ICBM's capable of reaching the U.S.)
Energy Bill (new tax cuts...after 5 years of opposition)
Immunity For Gun Manufacturers From Crime-Related Lawsuits
5% unemployment
3.4% annual (after inflation, 5.5% actual) reported GDP Growth
Syrian Troops forced to withdraw from Lebanon

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/07/933f746d-c5d8-491a-bd7c-566de1b66135.html Russians Troops Peacefully Withdraw From Georgia

168 posted on 08/24/2005 12:47:27 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Deb

Since you seem to have greater access to Bush's documents, why don't you summarize them here, for everyone's edification.


169 posted on 08/24/2005 12:54:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, grow up!)
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To: Reagan Man
I've always said, Bush43 can be very Reaganesque, but he is far from Reagan-like.

It's a shame that folks feel they need to somehow justify Bush's actions by claiming Reagan was a liberal. But it would be nice if they at least made accurate claims if they're going to take that approach.

170 posted on 08/24/2005 1:44:02 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: canadiancapitalist

Yeah, thanks for the reminder. How could I forget that? That Constitution-usurping POS is worse the pills for geezers bill.


171 posted on 08/24/2005 2:22:55 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Excellent rant!


172 posted on 08/24/2005 2:39:31 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: Dane

You are very, very confused.


173 posted on 08/24/2005 3:05:28 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: iconoclast

Your comment has a lot of gall considering that your posts have been filled with sexist, obnoxious comments for years. And most of us have noticed your problem with women and authority.


174 posted on 08/24/2005 4:08:19 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Doohickey

THX. Just target practice.


175 posted on 08/24/2005 4:30:40 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Fairtax.org)
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To: ovrtaxt; Dane
"I have to go, so I won't be responding any more. Had fun flaming you. Turkey."

Funniest line of the day directed at everyone's favorite OBL/cheap labor lobby Kool-Aid sipping sock puppet, the Danester.

176 posted on 08/24/2005 4:31:52 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Dr. Marten

"Actually, I like to read his writing. I think he has his head on straight. Just because one is a conservative, doesn't mean they have to agree with everything Bush says and does.

It's funny how Bush likens himself to Ronald Reagan when Bush's idea of conservatism seems to be moving in the opposite direction."

Amen! For the most part this administration's policies have been a dismal failure. More excuses than Joran Van der Sloot has stories for a war that should never have happened, an open border policy, a bankrupt fiscal policy, etc......


177 posted on 08/24/2005 4:46:00 PM PDT by doc
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To: Southack

Wow! You've certainly done your homework.

I've never said that I don't support Bush or that he hasn't accomplished anything positive for America during his presidency, but I don't agree with everything either.

I haven't read through everything you've documented yet, but this one did catch my eye because of a book that I'm currently reading on fast food chains in America.

"Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules that would have shut down every home business in America"

If you knew how this law would have improved the working environment for millions of Americans who work in the meat packing industry, you would know this is not a good thing.

If you have a chance, pick up a copy of "Fast Food Nation". I'm sure you will find it very enlightening.

There are many things I don't agree with Republicans on and one of them is OSHA. Of course, if you've never worked in a factory, or in construction you probably wouldn't understand.


178 posted on 08/24/2005 6:49:09 PM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: Dr. Marten

Eric Schlosser, the author of Fast Food Nation, is fact challenged.

Here is just **one** concrete example of his fabrications:

http://www.roycecarlton.com/speakers/schlosser.html
“How does the land of the free come to have the largest prison population in the history of the world?” - Eric Schlosser

...In the history of the world...

"The Soviet system of forced labor camps was first established in 1919 under the Cheka, but it was not until the early 1930s that the camp population reached significant numbers. By 1934 the Gulag, or Main Directorate for Corrective Labor Camps, then under the Cheka's successor organization the NKVD, had several million inmates. Prisoners included murderers, thieves, and other common criminals--along with political and religious dissenters." http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/gula.html

How many died in Soviet gulags?

"The total documentable deaths in the system of corrective-labor camps and colonies from 1930 to 1956 amount to 1,606,748, including political and common prisoners; note that this does not include more than 800,000 executions of "counterrevolutionaries" during the period of the "Great Terror", since they were mostly conducted outside the camp system and were accounted for separately. From 1932 to 1940, at least 390,000 peasants died in places of labor settlements. The number of people who were prisoners at one point or the other is, of course, much larger, and one may assume that many of the survivors suffered permanent physical and psychological damage. Deaths at some camps are documented more thoroughly than those at others." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

"Applebaum estimates that from 1929 through 1953 -- the years of high Stalinism -- more than 18 million people coursed through the camps, with a further six million being exiled to remote regions of the Soviet Union." http://www.arlindo-correia.com/041003.html

"By the fall of 1944, the Nazi war machine depended on the work of roughly 8 million forced laborers." http://www.pbs.org/wnet/berga/beyond/labor.html


Some of the remains of the 1.7 million **documented** prisoners killed by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~asiactr/haq/200001/0001a009.htm

"Stalin's Soviet Union, with its huge network of forced-labor camps, would surely be near the top. I've seen widely varying figures, but let's use the conservative Britannica number of five million prisoners in the Gulag in 1936. That works out to more than 3,000 per 100,000. The record holder, though, is undoubtedly Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge: the regime forced virtually the entire population into labor camps or prisons during the late 1970s, killing as many as two million of the country's six to seven million people.

Nazi Germany employed millions of slave laborers, but most were foreign nationals during wartime, so the comparison doesn't seem apt. China, though . . . well, 1.5 million prisoners is just the official figure. Chinese human rights activist Harry Wu, who spent 19 years in forced-labor camps for criticizing the government, estimates that 16 to 20 million of his countrymen are incarcerated, including common criminals, political prisoners, and people in involuntary job placements. Even ten million prisoners would make for a rate of 793 per 100,000." http://www.straightdope.com/columns/040206.html

179 posted on 08/24/2005 10:27:00 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Dane

He's not my hero. He's just not one to let Congress run him over without paying the consequences.

. . . And so far, you haven't materially refuted a single, solitary argument I've made about the President's current performance in office.

Not that I'm counting or anything.


180 posted on 08/24/2005 10:35:04 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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