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Two extra US battalions to Iraq
Herald Sun ^ | 24 August 2005

Posted on 08/23/2005 5:47:20 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

THE Pentagon plans to deploy two additional battalions to Iraq amid rising insurgent attacks ahead of an anticipated referendum on a constitution, US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said today.

Mr Rumsfeld expressed confidence that public support for the war effort in Iraq will hold despite polls showing growing disenchantment in the United States. "I think it'll have the support of the American people, and it will be sustained, and we will be successful," he said.

"And the alternative would be to turn that country and 25 million people over to terrorists and the kinds of people who have used chemicals on their own people and chemicals on their neighbours," he said. "That would be to turn to darkness."

An unfinished draft of the constitution was presented to the Iraqi parliament late yesterday, but deep differences remain between Sunnis and the Shiites and Kurds.

Mr Rumsfeld discounted concerns that Sunni rejection of the charter could leave US forces caught in the middle of a civil war.

"It hasn't happened yet. It is not happening now," he said.

"And, obviously, it is something that one has to be attentive to and be concerned about. But I haven't seen anything to indicate that the risk is greater today than it was yesterday or the day before," he said.

His comments came on a day in which two more Americans, a soldier and a contractor, died. They were killed in a suicide bombing in Baquba that also claimed the lives of five Iraqis.

Around 60 US troops have been killed so far in August, making it one of the deadliest months of the war for the US military since it invaded Iraq in March 2003.

The US death toll now stands at 1868.

Mr Rumsfeld acknowledged that insurgents have stepped up attacks in anticipation of a planned October 15 referendum on the constitution, attributing the higher casualties to more lethal and sophisticated insurgent bomb attacks.

"We very likely will be announcing a temporary increase in forces in Iraq in anticipation of the October 15th. So at some point, we'll be notifying people and taking that forward," he said.

Asked how many troops could be involved, he said between 1000 and 2000 soldiers.

Admiral Edmund Giambastiana, the new vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said it would be two battalions.

Senior military officials said the battalions would amount to extra troops, brought in on top of the scheduled rotation of forces in Iraq.

Military officials also are looking at ways to adjust the rotation of forces to beef up the US troop presence on the ground for the elections from its current level of about 138,000 troops.

Some units already in Iraq could have their tours extended for a couple of months while units due to deploy to Iraq could be brought in earlier than scheduled.

Pentagon officials have said they expect the total number to rise to about the level they were at during Iraq's January 30 elections - some 159,000 troops.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dod; donaldrumsfeld; iraq; iraqwar; nosurrender
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1 posted on 08/23/2005 5:47:25 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher


can you say Iranian and/or Syrian border?


2 posted on 08/23/2005 5:48:41 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: Aussie Dasher

That is also, ironically, VERY close to the next troop rotation....


3 posted on 08/23/2005 5:52:26 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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To: Aussie Dasher; Dog; DevSix; Marine_Uncle

Cols Hunt and Cowan on OReilly tonight outlining some specific changes they would make, including:

- fire some generals
- more special forces
- less tank groups in civilian areas
- less convoy operations for US troops
- move some heavy mechanized units into border areas of the country. draw a line in the sand, tell iran and syria that targets on their side of the border will be hit if terrorists flow over the borders
- money from the iraqi government to outfit their own forces is pitiful, they do not have proper equipment. this lines up with a FR thread I saw last week, some freeper with a friend in Iraq posting for Nissan parts for trucks that iraqi forces use (did anyone else catch that?)

have at it fellows....


4 posted on 08/23/2005 5:53:47 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Aussie Dasher
Around 60 US troops have been killed so far in August, making it one of the deadliest months of the war for the US military since it invaded Iraq in March 2003. The US death toll now stands at 1868.

Staistically impossible. If 1686 soldiers were killed over 30 months, that would be (on average) 62.3 soldiers/month. Acknowledging that the distribution of deaths over those 30 months may not be random, I doubt this has been one of the deadliest months since the invasion. I could be wrong but I doubt it.

5 posted on 08/23/2005 5:54:30 PM PDT by johniegrad
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The Pentagon plans to deploy two additional battalions to Iraq

We are fighting thugs and terroorists--sending two more battalions to Iraq makes no sense. This is an admission that the Iraqi people (the Iraqi Army) does not care about fighting for their own freedom.

On Sept. 11, 2001, President Bush said, "We will make no distinction between those who committed these acts and those who harbor them."

Iran and Syria harbor terrorists. We have not done jack about that since 911. The IEDs that are killing our sons are being built in Iran.

Also, Iran is building nukes. What has Bush done about that since 911? He sent them aid after earthquakes--TWICE!--since his 911 promise to"We will make no distinction between those who committed these acts and those who harbor them."

We should be sending cruise missiles and F-15Es into Syria and Iran, NOT sending two more battalions to IRaq to fight the Iraqi Army's fight.

6 posted on 08/23/2005 5:58:59 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: oceanview
Hunt and Cowens are two pessimistic arm chair "colonels". If they were that smart they would have reached higher ranks.
7 posted on 08/23/2005 6:00:05 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

My Good Buddy Jess (22) who is also a FR Lurker just got to Camp Liberty 2 days ago,God Bless them All.


8 posted on 08/23/2005 6:00:31 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life....)
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To: cmsgop

God bless them all, indeed.


9 posted on 08/23/2005 6:01:48 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: johniegrad

August is only two-thirds over; at this rate, it's closer to 90 killed.


10 posted on 08/23/2005 6:02:12 PM PDT by DeeOhGee (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Thanks Man, and thank you for your countries help.
11 posted on 08/23/2005 6:03:56 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life....)
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To: oceanview; Chieftain

These tactical ideas sure make sense to me. Hunt wanted a " Killer General" in there..preferably a Marine!


12 posted on 08/23/2005 6:04:19 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: jveritas

are there ANY changes you are in favor of?


13 posted on 08/23/2005 6:07:10 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: cmsgop

We're in this together and, together, WE WILL WIN!!!


14 posted on 08/23/2005 6:08:22 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: jveritas; Chieftain

Not always true...


15 posted on 08/23/2005 6:08:32 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: DeeOhGee
"August is only two-thirds over; at this rate, it's closer to 90 killed."

71 see: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties.htm

16 posted on 08/23/2005 6:08:34 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: jveritas
Hunt and Cowens are two pessimistic arm chair "colonels". If they were that smart they would have reached higher ranks.

I agree. They're not on the top of the deck in terms of experience, intelligence or creativity.

17 posted on 08/23/2005 6:09:58 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: oceanview
I think our commanders on the ground in Iraq are doing some of this and many other things that Hunt and Cowen have no clue about. How do these two guys know each day tactical work by the military in Iraq? Did they fight a similar anti-terrorist campaign? No, and no. The worse type of analysts are arm chair generals.
18 posted on 08/23/2005 6:10:50 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: bnelson44

No, I meant that by the time August is over, assuming the rate is the same, there will be closer to 90 dead. Hopefully, that won't happen.


19 posted on 08/23/2005 6:10:57 PM PDT by DeeOhGee (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: oceanview

This is pretty obvious stuff


20 posted on 08/23/2005 6:11:26 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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