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"America Is Not Worth Dying For!" - Cindy Sheehan
CONSERVATIVE TRUTH ^ | 08/22/05 | Tom Barrett

Posted on 08/23/2005 3:22:57 PM PDT by GMMAC

CONSERVATIVE TRUTH 08/22/05

"America Is Not Worth Dying For!"

By Tom Barrett

Publisher@ConservativeTruth.org

"America is not worth dying for!" So said Cindy Sheehan in April of this year at a rally in support of Attorney Lynne Stewart, who was convicted of aiding and abetting terrorism. Some commentators have speculated that Sheehan is a political innocent being controlled by radical leftists such as Michael Moore. I say her words prove that she has become a radical leftist in her own right.

Cindy Sheehan is the mother of Army Specialist Casey Sheehan, who died fighting for freedom in Iraq last year. Recently she has been camped out near President Bush's ranch in Texas demanding to speak with him. This morning a Fox News commentator stated that she deserves our respect because her son died in combat. Really? Her son certainly deserves our respect. I respect Mrs. Sheehan's grief, but it does not give her the right to do what she is doing. Sheehan dishonors her son and his sacrifice when she states that the country he loved and died for is not WORTH dying for.

Sheehan sounds like every other socialist and America hater: "When I was growing up, it was 'Communists'. Now it's 'Terrorists'. So you always have to have somebody to fight and be afraid of, so the war machine can build more bombs, guns, and bullets and everything." "War machine"? Sounds just like what the American Communists used to say when they were trying to demoralize the United States.

Sheehan claims she wants to meet with the President to have a "dialogue" with him. Diatribe is more like it. She told the Veteran's Against War that if she got to talk to Bush, this is what she would say: "'You tell me what the noble cause is that my son died for.' And if he even starts to say 'Freedom and democracy', I'm gonna say 'Bullsh*t! You tell me the truth. You tell me that my son died for oil. You tell me that my son died to spread the cancer of imperialism in the Middle East.'" I don't blame the President for not meeting with her. Why waste the time? She's already told him (and the world) exactly what she will say to him, including the curses she plans to use.

She also told the "Veterans for Peace" Convention on August 5, 2005, speaking of her upcoming trip to Bush's ranch, what she was going to say to the Secret Service Agents: "And I'm gonna tell them, 'You get that evil maniac out here, cuz a Gold Star Mother, somebody who's blood is on his hands, has some questions for him.'" Does that sound like an invitation to any kind of reasonable dialogue? (She made many other outrageous and sometimes incoherent comments to this group, too numerous to quote here. They are listed below the Internet Research following this column.) But still, some pundits and commentators are saying, "Why doesn't Bush just meet with her? That will make all this go away." As usual, the mainstream press speaks out of its ignorance. Bush DID meet with Cindy Sheehan, back in June of 2004 (see LINK below, "Bush and Sheehans Share Moments").

Following that meeting, Sheehan said of Bush:

"I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis. I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith...That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together."

No one seems to know what caused such a huge change, but since that meeting Cindy Sheehan has become more and more possessed by a spirit of hatred and bitterness. Nothing the President could say or do, short of killing himself, would satisfy this woman.

Interestingly, Sheehan, who describes herself as a very religious former Catholic youth leader, has become very liberal with her filthy talk. She uses the "F" word frequently in her "speeches" (actually, vitriolic rants), and often calls the President a "bastard" and other vile names which I will not repeat here.

She is also strongly anti-Israel. In many of the dozens of her speeches I read while researching this column, she made anti-Jewish and anti-Israel remarks. She seems to believe that Israel has teamed up with the US, the "War Machine" and oil interests for some undefined purpose. "My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11..."

David Duke, the Klansman and outspoken anti-Semite, praised Sheehan for her remarks.

She has made ridiculous claims that Israel instigated the war in Iraq, and has made demands that Israel pull out of the so-called occupied territories.

What any of this has to do with her son's death is anyone's guess. Mine is that, like most of her other remarks, it has little to do with her son and much to do with her own political views. Cindy Sheehan is using her son's coffin as a soapbox from which to push her anti-America, anti-Israel and anti-Bush agenda.

In a recent press conference, Sheehan revealed that, "My husband and I are separated, because he doesn't support my activities." That's an interesting comment, particularly since she stated at the beginning of her vigil at the Crawford Ranch, just a few days earlier, that her husband completely supported her.

Her husband Patrick certainly has not joined her publicity stunt in Texas. There has been much speculation in the news since he filed to divorce her on August 12, about whether the reason for the divorce was her use of her son's death to put herself in the national spotlight. In light of the fact that most of Casey Sheehan's relatives have signed a letter stating that they do not agree with Cindy, and begging her to stop her media crusade, it is likely that the speculation about why her husband Patrick has filed for divorce is correct.

Cindy Sheehan has claimed that her son was "tricked into enlisting in the Army, that he didn't know he might be sent into combat. I don't often quote Democrats in my columns, but a Democrat columnist named Scott Randolph made a lot of sense in a recent article named "Cindy Sealed the Deal" (see LINK below). He starts by describing how Cindy Sheehan's ridiculous antics almost caused him to become a Republican. Listen to what he said about soldiers and their sacrifice:

"Soldiers know, when they enlist, that it is entirely possible they will be shipped out and never come home. It's part of the job. The fact that people still walk in to recruiters' offices and sign that piece of paper make them heroes. To imply that they are simple kids who didn't know what they were getting into, or even worse, that they died for no reason, or an immoral reason, does a horrible thing. It strips their sacrifice of the honor that it deserves."

In her address to college students mentioned at the beginning of this column, Cindy Sheehan showed her ignorance of world affairs and her unsuitability to be a spokesperson for any movement, even the fringe anti-war leftists:

"They're not waging a War on Terror but a War of Terror," she said. "The biggest terrorist is George W. Bush." She claimed "it costs $66,000 to recruit one soldier and $49,000 a year to house a prisoner, yet only $6,000 per year is spent to educate a child in California. (EDITOR: Recruiting costs are actually $15,000 per soldier, the cost of housing a prisoner in California for one year is $26,000.)

Sheehan continued declared the U.S. government a "morally repugnant system." Then she raged:

"We have no Constitution. We're the only country with no checks and balances. We want our country back if we have to impeach George Bush down to the person who picks up the dog sh*t in Washington! Let George Bush send his two little party animals to die in Iraq. It's OK for Israel to have nuclear weapons but we are waging nuclear war in Iraq, we have contaminated the entire country. It's not OK for Syria to be in Lebanon. Hypocrites! But Israel can occupy Palestine? Stop the laughter!" (EDITOR: Presumably "his two little party animals" refers to Bush's two daughters, although why a supposedly grieving mother would wish for two more children to die escapes me.)

Any eight-grade student knows that these statements are ridiculous. Hundreds of countries have no checks and balances, but we are a nation built on that concept. We have "contaminated the entire country" by waging "nuclear war" in Iraq. What kind of drugs is this woman on? And note again her hatred for Israel, expressed again and again.

Chris Matthews, who hosts "Hardball" on MSNBC, interviewed Sheehan on August 15, 2005 interview (see LINK below for the full interview). He brought up the fact that most of her son's relatives had signed a letter denouncing her tactics. He quoted the letter:

"The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports our troops, our country, and our president, silently, with prayer and respect. Sincerely, Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins."

Sheehan laughed it off. "Those are on my husband's side of the family. And we've always been politically on different sides of the fence. I have always been a Democrat and they have always been Republicans."

In the article mentioned earlier, "The War That's All About Her (see LINK below), Sheehan makes the following statement in the interview:

"Well, first of all, I think the best way to honor my son's death would be to bring the troops home, and that's what we in Gold Star Families want our children to be remembered for: peace and not war and hatred. For him to use my son's blood to continue the killing, to me, is despicable. I don't want one more drop of blood spilled in my son's name or in my name. We never should have been there in the first place. It was a mistake. It was a mistake when we invaded. It's a mistake now, and I want my son's sacrifice and the sacrifices of the other brave Americans to stand for peace and to bring peace to the world and not to spread more hate. You know, he said that my son died to spread freedom and democracy in that region. We're spreading imperialism and death and destruction everywhere we go. And, no, not one more drop of blood in my son's name or the names of any other of our brave young people who have made the ultimate sacrifice for basically nothing."

The author, Amy Goodman, makes a valid point when she says that this has become more about Cindy Sheehan than about her son Casey. In the statements above, she refers to Casey six times. She refers to herself thirteen times.

She has been bragging on Internet websites about all the intervews she has done on TV, all the magazines she has been in, and that she expects to be on the cover of People magazine. This may be a clue as to why the grieving mother has turned into the crusading America-hater. She loves the spotlight too much.

Finally, let's talk about Casey Sheehan. Casey VOLUNTEERED for the Army in May of 2000, knowing that it was likely he would serve in combat (that's what the Army does, Cindy). He didn't tell his mother, probably because he knew exactly what she would say, what she is saying today. (See LINK below to article, "Who Cares What Her Son Believed?")

Sheehan's claim that the Army recruiter "tricked" her son into enlisting is plain silly. I wouldn't say it is impossible to trick a 21-year-old into enlisting, but it's unlikely. Perhaps the recruiter said, "We're going to train you shoot weapons, but it's all just for show. We'll send the other guys into battle, but you'll stay in an air-conditioned office because you're special." But let's say she was right and he was tricked.

She must have REALLY been ticked off when he REENLISTED. She claims the reason he did so was that he was "brainwashed", but Casey had a sense of honor and duty (which he must have gotten from his father). Here is Cindy's reaction to his reenlistment, in her own words. It is quoted in an interview with Amy Goodman entitled "The War That's All about Her" (see LINK below):

"Our family was against it from the beginning. Casey was against it, but he felt it was his duty to go because he was in the Army. And he felt that he had to go to protect his buddies, to be there for his buddies, to be support, and they are brainwashed into thinking that even if they don't agree with the mission, they're brainwashed into just blindly following it. I begged Casey not to go. I told him I would take him to Canada. I told him I would run over him with a car, anything to get him not to go to that immoral war."

Now there's a loving mother. To fulfill her own political agenda, she was willing to drive her son to Canada (making HIM a federal fugitive, with no risk to herself). She was even willing to lovingly "run over him with a car" because SHE believed the war in Iraq was "immoral." How many of you mothers would be willing to show that kind of love to your children?

Finally, after volunteering for the Army in the first place, then voluntarily reenlisting, Casey Sheehan volunteered one last time. Although he was a mechanic serving in a non-combat position, he volunteered for what he knew was a dangerous assignment. He went on a mission into hostile territory to rescue a group of soldiers trapped by terrorists. (His mother calls them "Iraqi freedom fighters"; isn't that ironic?) He bravely chose to put himself in harm's way out of a sense of duty. His mother chooses to proclaim that his death was pointless.

INTERNET RESEARCH:

Bush and Sheehans Share Moments

Cindy Sheehan: Psychosis of Ignorance

San Francisco State University Hosts a Terrorist

Who Cares What Her Son Believed? Cindy Sheehan has an Agenda.

The War That's All About Her

Cindy Sealed the Deal

Cindy Sheehan: Changing Stories About Family Solidarity

Sheehan Plays "Hardball" With Christ Matthews

EXCERPTS FROM CINDY SHEEHAN'S ADDRESS TO THE "VETERANS FOR PEACE" CONVENTION, AUGUST 8, 2005:

"So anyway that filth-spewer and warmonger, George Bush was speaking after the tragedy of the marines in Ohio, he said a couple things that outraged me. And I know I don't look like I'm outraged, I'm always so calm and everything, that's because if I started hitting something, I wouldn't stop 'til it was dead."

"You're taking away our freedoms. The Iraqi people aren't freer, they're much worse off than before you meddled in their country."

"Somebody's gotta stop those lying bastards."

"Then we have this lying bastard, George Bush, taking a 5-week vacation in a time of war."

"But I'm either gonna be in jail or in a tent in Crawford, waiting until that jerk comes out and tells me why my son died."

"To make my son's death count for peace and love, and not war and hatred like he [Bush] stands for."

"You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine."

"What can we do to get him out of power? And I'm gonna say the "I" word. Impeach. And we have to have everybody impeached that lied to the American public, and that's the executive branch, and any people in congress, and we gotta go all the way down and we might have to go all the way down to the person who picks up the dogsh*t in Washington."

"And I want them to come after me, because unlike what you've been doing with the war resistance, I want to put this f*ing war on trial. And I want to say, 'You give me my son, and I'll pay your taxes.'"

"It's up to us, the people, to break immoral laws, and resist. As soon as the leaders of a country lie to you, they have no authority over you. These maniacs have no authority over us. And they might be able to put our bodies in prison, but they can't put our spirits in prison."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: axisofevilcindy; cindymean; cindysheehan; foulmouthstooge; goldcrescentmom; israelhater; sheehansyndrome; sickofcindy
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To: Paleo Conservative

Cindy Sheehan is SO sick...my ancestors died to give this "woman" the right to protest the war in Iraq. But do NOT get me started!

She is sh!tting on the grave of her son, She cannot bring him back. He died for her. If she ever realizes that, I hope I'm THERE!



61 posted on 08/23/2005 6:42:16 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Can I have your beets?)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Cindy Sheehan is SO sick...my ancestors died to give this "woman" the right to protest the war in Iraq. But do NOT get me started!

She is sh!tting on the grave of her son, She cannot bring him back. He died for her. If she ever realizes that, I hope I'm THERE!



62 posted on 08/23/2005 6:42:22 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Can I have your beets?)
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To: newfrpr04

This is really tragic story that goes beyond the death of the son. This woman warped the entire situation and has dumped the rest of the family. And never once...does she say anything about the legacy of Casey. She mentions Bush a dozen times over her son's name. Something is wrong here...and she simply is mentally lost.


63 posted on 08/23/2005 6:43:08 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: GMMAC
Cindy has dug her foxhole and is fighting against the war and the Bush administration. Unfortunately she is using Casey's body as a sand bag.
64 posted on 08/23/2005 6:57:47 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: SierraWasp

Great addition for Cindy on your tagline


65 posted on 08/24/2005 4:48:41 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: jwh_Denver

Amen.


66 posted on 08/24/2005 8:55:17 AM PDT by knightshadow
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To: RustysGirl

You're really quite the troll, aren't you. Albeit a subtle one. But anyone who wades through your posts will not be confused for long.

Here is a transcript of these remarks you cannot find anywhere"

"First, I want to give my little story about Lynne. Of course, you all have read To Kill a Mockingbird. Lynne is my human Atticus Finch. He did what he knew was right, but wasn’t popular. And that’s what Lynne is doing. [applause]

We are not waging a war on terror in this country. We’re waging a war of terror. The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush... [applause]

I really want to thank you guys for doing this, especially the young people. It gives me so much hope to know that there’s young people who care more about who’s our next American Idol – less about that. You guys care more about people being killed. There’s too many that care more about the next American Idol. Too many people in our country that don’t even really know we have a war going on. You know, they never have to think of the war, and I’ll never, ever forget this war. I can never forget it, even when I’m sleeping [tears] I know that we’re in a war and I know that George Bush and his band of neo-cons and their neo-con agenda killed my son. And I’ll never, ever, ever forget.

I take responsibility partly for my son’s death, too. I was raised in a country by a public school system that taught us that America was good, that America was just. America has been killing people, like my sister over here says, since we first stepped on this continent, we have been responsible for death and destruction. I passed on that bullshit to my son and my son enlisted. I’m going all over the country telling moms: “This country is not worth dying for. If we’re attacked, we would all go out. We’d all take whatever we had. I’d take my rolling pin and I’d beat the attackers over the head with it. But we were not attacked by Iraq. [applause]

We might not even have been attacked by Osama bin Laden if [applause]. 9/11 was their Pearl Harbor to get their neo-con agenda through and, if I would have known that before my son was killed, I would have taken him to Canada. I would never have let him go and try and defend this morally repugnant system we have. The people are good, the system is morally repugnant. [applause]

Please – teach your babies, teach your babies better than I taught my babies. When Congress gave George Bush the right to go to war, they abrogated their constitutional responsibilities and they basically made our constitution null and void. We have no checks and balances in this country. We have no recourse. If they’re going to what they did to Lynne, they don’t have backs they call names, what we need to be is, we the people, we’re their checks and balances. We’re the only checks and balances. We have to stand up and say, Not only is this our school, this is our country. We want our country back and, if we have to impeach everybody from George Bush down to the person who picks up dog shit in Washington, we will impeach all those people. Our country needs to [unintelligible] we need to start over again...

What they’re saying, too, is like, it’s okay for Israel to have nuclear weapons. But Iran or Syria better not get nuclear weapons. It’s okay for the United States to have nuclear weapons. It’s okay for the countries that we say it’s okay for. We are waging a nuclear war in Iraq right now. That country is contaminated. It will be contaminated for practically eternity now. It’s okay for them to have them, but Iran or Syria can’t have them. It’s okay for Israel to occupy Palestine, but it’s – yeah – and it’s okay for Iraq to occupy – I mean, for the United States to occupy Iraq, but it’s not okay for Syria to be in Lebanon. They’re a bunch of f*cking hypocrites! And we need to, we just need to rise up. We need a revolution and make it be peaceful and make it be loving and let’s just show them all the love we have for humanity because we want to stop the inhumane slaughter."

Transcript of comments made by featured speakers at a pro-Lynne Stewart rally held on Wednesday, April 27,
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/Stewartrally.htm

Sweetness & Light » Cindy Hates America, Admires Terrorists
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/cindy-hates-america-admires-the-terrorists/


67 posted on 08/30/2005 8:32:24 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

You missed my post #60, in which I answered my own question, and cited the transcript (with link) from The Discover Network. I'm not a troll, but I am a stickler for accuracy. There's more than enough material to work with regarding Sheehan, so there's no need to doctor quotes, even slightly. Also, it's dangerous, since so much of the Sheehan material is available on tape and in transcripts, and thus any quote fiddling can be easily discovered and challenged.


68 posted on 08/30/2005 11:56:30 PM PDT by RustysGirl
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To: Baynative

Is anyone here at ALL interested in the truth, or just the interpretation that fits your pre-conceived notions? When I heard that Cindy Sheehan allegedly said America's not worth dying for I researched it. It took less than 10 minutes to get the actual transcript of the speech.

(http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/Articles/Stewartrally.htm)

Below are the actual words Cindy Sheehan used.

"This country is not worth dying for. If we’re attacked, we would all go out. We’d all take whatever we had. I’d take my rolling pin and I’d beat the attackers over the head with it. But we were not attacked by Iraq."

If you're interested in reality you will note that she never said "America". She used the words "This country". Her following words make it clear that by "this country" she meant Iraq, not America!!! In her next sentence she stated strongly that "If we're attacked..." (we being America) she'd be beating attackers over the head with a rolling pin.

Taken in context her statement is exactly the opposite of how it's being portrayed by the hateful right-wing "pundits". She is saying that America IS worth fighting for, but that we didn't need to invade Iraq to protect America! You may disagree with that position, but lying about what she said, whether by intent or by blissful ignorance. does not serve you well. It only puts you in the same category with those idiots who think Bush orchestrated the 911 attacks, that being the "mindless ideologue" category.

I'd much rather base my arguments on actual facts.


69 posted on 12/11/2005 12:36:21 AM PST by truthseeker8459 (The FACTS about what Cindy Sheehan actually said)
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To: GMMAC

Shut the **** up cindy!


70 posted on 12/11/2005 12:37:39 AM PST by Paul_Denton (The U.S. should adopt the policy of Oom Shmoom: Israeli policy where no one gives a sh*t about U.N.)
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To: truthseeker8459
Nice try troll. But you take her words out of context yourself. Reading her remarks in their entirety, you'll see that she meant what she said.

From your link: http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/Articles/Stewartrally.htm

"I take responsibility partly for my son’s death, too. I was raised in a country by a public school system that taught us that America was good, that America was just. America has been killing people, like my sister over here says, since we first stepped on this continent, we have been responsible for death and destruction. I passed on that bullshit to my son and my son enlisted. I’m going all over the country telling moms: “This country is not worth dying for. If we’re attacked, we would all go out. We’d all take whatever we had. I’d take my rolling pin and I’d beat the attackers over the head with it. But we were not attacked by Iraq. {applause} We might not even have been attacked by Osama bin Laden if {applause}. 9/11 was their Pearl Harbor to get their neo-con agenda through and, if I would have known that before my son was killed, I would have taken him to Canada. I would never have let him go and try and defend this morally repugnant system we have. The people are good, the system is morally repugnant. {applause}"

And throughout her entire speech you'll see that she absolutely hates President Bush with a passion and she feels nothing but utter contempt for America. She meant it. She actually admits that she thinks America is not worth dying for. And she really would've sent her son to Canada rather than allowing him to fight for his country.

She's a cowardly traitor just like Reid, Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer, Schumer, Dean, Pelosi, Murtha, et al. Yeah, Murtha too. Bite me. Like the man said, even Benedict Arnold was a war hero before he turned traitor.

By the way, look up the slogan "Death to America." Perhaps you will learn who declared war on whom and when. We've been under attack for years. The Islamofascists declared war on America a long time ago and they've been attacking us ever since. Think back about all the terrorist attacks, bombings, hijackings, assassinations, kidnappings and beheadings since 1979. Who were the perpetrators? Who declared war on America? Who is attacking America and our allies all over the globe? Islamofacism that's who. And Iraq under Saddam Hussein was right in the thick of it. He was a weapon of mass destruction.

Thank God for President Bush! Thank God for our courageous armed forces! Thank God for brave men like Casey Sheehan! Hurrah for a liberated Iraq! May she long be free!

71 posted on 12/11/2005 5:42:48 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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