BLACK HAWK DOWN: Did mother of dead soldier protest Clinton?

(reprise) DFU SONG: Save the Best for Last (the battle of Mogadishu -- Clinton is to blame) 7-30-02
DFU SONG PARODIES | 7-2002 | Lyrics, Doug from Upland

Posted on 07/30/2002 11:42:17 AM PDT by doug from upland

In light of Bill Clinton's recent statements in which he totally ignores any blame he has for the battle of Mogadishu, it was time to bring this one back from the archives.

MIDI - SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST -- scroll down to the second set of songs

There are so few who pass the test
They are the best of all the best
They are called Rangers, strong and proud
And each one stands above the crowd

For those who survived the training
They were set to do what they were told
They were the warriors who were so well prepared
There's none more fierce and bold

To Mogadishu they would go
There was a Black Hawk down they know
Outnumbered one hundred to one
That's when the terror had begun

By greater forces they're outgunned
The U.N. had screwed up, they were stunned
They got into a firefight
They fought 12 hours day and night

For those who survived the training
They were set to do what they were told
They were the warriors who were so well prepared
There were none more fierce and bold

All their requests civilians thwart
They needed armor for support
Eighteen had died, no armor came
Clinton's the one who is to blame

(slight musical interlude)

"Surrender's" no Ranger word

(slight musical interlude)

Eighteen brave heroes died 'cause no armor came
And Bill Clinton is to blame

There are so few who pass the test
They were the best of all the best
They gave their lives to do their part
They are remembered in our heart

They are remembered in...our heart
Yes, in our heart

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Killed on Oct. 3 and 4, 1993
With posthumous awards.

Sgt. First Class Randy Shughart, a Delta soldier killed defending the crew of Super 64, the Medal of Honor.

Master Sgt. Gary Gordon, a Delta soldier who was killed after jumping in to defend the crew of Super 64, the Medal of Honor.

CWO Cliff Wolcott, pilot of Super 61, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star and the Air Medal with Valor Device.

CWO Donovan Briley, copilot of Super 61, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star and Air Medal with Valor Device.

Staff Sgt. William Cleveland, a crew chief on Super 64 Silver Star, Bronze Star and Air Medal with Valor Device.

Staff Sgt. Thomas Field, a crew chief on Super 64, Silver Star, Bronze Star and Air Medal with Valor Device.

CWO Raymond Frank, copilot of Super 64, Silver Star, Air Medal with Valor Device.

Staff Sgt. Daniel Busch, who crashed on Super 61 and was killed defending the downed crew, the Silver Star.

Sgt. Cornell Houston, who was killed fighting on the rescue convoy, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Sgt. Casey Joyce, who was killed on the Lost Convoy, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Spec. James Cavaco, who was killed on the Lost Convoy, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Cpl. Jamie Smith, who bled to death with the pinned-down force around crash site one, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Sgt. Dominick Pilla, who was killed on the convoy rescuing Pfc. Todd Blackburn, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Pfc. Richard Kowalewski, who was killed on the Lost Convoy, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Sgt. Lorenzo Ruiz, who was killed on the Lost Convoy, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Sgt. First Class Earl Fillmore, Delta soldier killed moving to the first crash site.

Pfc. James Martin, who was killed on the rescue convoy.

Master Sgt. Tim "Griz" Martin a Delta soldier killed on the Lost Convoy.

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Posted on 05/08/2003 8:55:38 PM PDT by doug from upland

The following is Colonel Eugene Holmes's September 1992 affidavit concerning Bill Clinton and the draft.

Colonel Eugene Holmes is a highly decorated officer of the United States Army. He is a survivor of the Bataan Death March and three and a half years as a POW of the Japanese. He served 32 years in the army before retiring with 100% disability. His decorations include the Silver Star, 2 Bronze Stars, 2 Legions of Merit, the Army Commendation Medal and many others. During the Vietnam War, he personally inducted both his sons into the service--one for 3 years as a regular army enlisted man, and the other as a commissioned officer (after he had completed ROTC training).

There have been many unanswered questions as to the circumstances surrounding Bill Clinton's involvement with the ROTC department at the University of Arkansas. Prior to this time I have not felt the necessity for discussing the details. The reason I have not done so before is that my poor physical health (a consequence of participation in the Battan Death March and the subsequent three and a half years interment in Japanese POW camps) has precluded me from getting into what I felt was unnecessary involvement. However, present polls show that there is the imminent danger to our country of a draft dodger becoming Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States. While it is true, as Mr. Clinton has stated, that there were many others who avoided serving their country in the Vietnam war, they are not aspiring to be the President of the United States.

The tremendous implications of the possibility of his becoming Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces compels me now to comment on the facts concerning Mr. Clinton's evasion of the draft. This account would not have been imperative had Bill Clinton been completely honest with the American public concerning this matter. But as Mr. Clinton replied on a news conference this evening (September 5, 1992) after being asked another particular about his dodging the draft, "Almost everyone concerned with these incidents are dead. I have no more comments to make". Since I may be the only person living who can give a first hand account of what actually transpired, I am obligated by my love for my country and my sense of duty to divulge what actually happened and make it a matter of record.

Bill Clinton came to see me at my home in 1969 to discuss his desire to enroll in the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas. We engaged in an extensive, approximately two (2) hour interview. At no time during this long conversation about his desire to join the program did he inform me of his involvement, participation and actually organizing protests against the United States involvement in South East Asia. He was shrewd enough to realize that had I been aware of his activities, he would not have been accepted into the ROTC program as a potential officer in the United States Army.

The next day I began to receive phone calls regarding Bill Clinton's draft status. I was informed by the draft board that it was of interest to Senator Fullbright's office that Bill Clinton, a Rhodes Scholar, should be admitted to the ROTC program. I received several such calls. The general message conveyed by the draft board to me was that Senator Fullbright's office was putting pressure on them and that they needed my help. I then made the necessary arrangements to enroll Mr. Clinton into the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas.

I was not "saving" him from serving his country, as he erroneously thanked me for in his letter from England (dated December 3, 1969). I was making it possible for a Rhodes Scholar to serve in the military as an officer. In retrospect I see that Mr. Clinton had no intention of following through with his agreement to join the Army ROTC program at the University of Arkansas or to attend the University of Arkansas Law School. I had explained to him the necessity of enrolling at the University of Arkansas as a student in order to be eligible to take the ROTC program at the University. He never enrolled at the University of Arkansas, but instead enrolled at Yale after attending Oxford. I believe that he purposely deceived me, using the possibility of joining the ROTC as a ploy to work with the draft board to delay his induction and get a new draft classification.

The December 3rd letter written to me by Mr. Clinton, and subsequently taken from the files by Lt. Col. Clint Jones, my executive officer, was placed into the ROTC files so that a record would be available in case the applicant should again petition to enter the ROTC program. The information in that letter alone would have restricted Bill Clinton from ever qualifying to be an officer in the United States Military. Even more significant was his lack of veracity in purposefully defrauding the military by deceiving me, both in concealing his anti-military activities overseas and his counterfeit intentions for later military service. These actions cause me to question both his patriotism and his integrity. When I consider the calabre, the bravery, and the patriotism of the fine young soldiers whose deaths I have witnessed, and others whose funerals I have attended.... When I reflect on not only the willingness but eagerness that so many of them displayed in their earnest desire to defend and serve their country, it is untenable and incomprehensible to me that a man who was not merely unwilling to serve his country, but actually protested against its military, should ever be in the position of Commander-in-Chief of our armed Forces.

I write this declaration not only for the living and future generations, but for those who fought and died for our country. If space and time permitted I would include the names of the ones I knew and fought with, and along with them I would mention my brother Bob, who was killed during World War II and is buried in Cambridge, England (at the age of 23, about the age Bill Clinton was when he was over in England protesting the war). I have agonized over whether or not to submit this statement to the American people. But, I realize that even though I served my country by being in the military for over 32 years, and having gone through the ordeal of months of combat under the worst of conditions followed by years of imprisonment by the Japanese, it is not enough. I'm writing these comments to let everyone know that I love my country more than I do my own personal security and well-being. I will go to my grave loving these United States of America and the liberty for which so many men have fought and died. Because of my poor physical condition this will be my final statement. I will make no further comments to any of the media regarding this issue.

Eugene Holmes

CLINTON: "I Didn't Kill the Kid" (a must read regarding Somalia)

Culture/Society Miscellaneous Keywords: SHAMELESS CLINTON
Source: THE CLINTON CHRONICLES BOOK
Published: 1994 Author: Lt. Col. Tom McKenney (Ret)
Posted on 05/29/2000 20:41:18 PDT by doug from upland
Eventually, after Clinton had sat on the paper work for eight weeks, two of the slain soldiers, Master Sergeant Gary Gordon and Sergeant First Class Randall Shughart, were posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor. As usual in such cases, the medals were presented to the next of kin.

Following the May 23 presentation at the White House, the families of the two men were invited into the Oval Office for a private visit with Clinton. Inside the office, the father of Sergeant Shughart refused to shake Clinton's hand, then look him in the face and calmly told him that he was responsible for his son's death, that it was for no purpose, that he was not fit to be President, and not fit to be Commander in Chief.

Clinton was visibly shocked, amazed, and momentarily speechless. It is revealing that he was surprised that the man should feel that way. Clinton really doesn't think the way most people do, seeming to lack a sense of personal responsibility. After a brief, awkward silence, Clinton caught his breath. Becoming angry, he turned to the mother of the dead her and said, "What's he jumping on me for? I didn't kill the kid!"

Yes, he really did say that--to the bereaved mother--he really did! It was an eloquent demonstration of Clinton's insensitivity, and of his absolute inability to understand sacrifice and responsibility.

To: TroutStalker
A Warren Christopher story that no one should every forget. This was written by Lt. Col. Tom McKenney (Ret) for the CLINTON CHRONICLES BOOK in his chapter --- THE UNTHINKABLE COMMANDER IN CHIEF. I had the great pleasure to do an interview with the colonel on the DFU RADIO HOUR.

It is significant that the man Clinton turns to for military advice ---who argued against the tanks and APC's for the raid in Mogadishu---is the same Warren Christopher (then a high official in Jimmy Carter's National Security Council) who helped plan the disastrous raid to rescue the hostages in Iran.

At a planning session for the Tehran rescue, the man selected to lead the raid, the late Colonel Charlie Beckwith, was asked what the would do about the Iranian guards. Bechwith, a no-nonsense veteran of special operations, replied that as they came out the door they would be shot in the head---twice---to be sure they couldn't do any harm.

Warren Christopher gasped, grimaced, viscerally shocked, and asked, "Couldn't you just shoot them in the hand?"

Had Charlie Beckwith been allowed to plan the Iranian raid as it should have been done and left alone to carry it out, it would have succeeded.

Concerning the Mogadishu disaster, Beckwith wrote in The Wall Street Journal that the raid was bungled by committing the Rangers and Delta Force without giving them the freedom and the support they needed.

25 posted on 12/16/2003 7:06:04 PM PST by doug from upland (Hillary would get 100% of the Islamist Terrorist vote)
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