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At least conservatives in Europe "get it" regarding Iraq and, because the European media is not harping about Iraq (and not covering the Bitch in the Ditch story), I would say a majority of people in Europe are happy that Iraq is going to be a democracy.

I would take Spain or Italy over New Hampshire (the socalled "Granite State") any day in terms of meeting conservative people who have a "granite" backbone and admire George Bush and want to stand up for what is right in this war.

America is in an unhealthy obsession of "debating" what should be regarded all around as a genuine plus. We have not been attacked since 9-11. We took the war to the enemy and they are busy losing to us there. What more of a *plus* do you want?? Why even a debate? Because old-style conservativism was isolationist? Sorry. Old style conservatism can be found mainly at MoveOn.org.

The Iraq War lasted 3 weeks. Since then, it has been just a campaign by our enemies in Iran and Syria and Saudi Arabia to enlist traitorous Americans as their allies by killing our soldiers not to gain territory or even accomplish anything in Iraq itself...but to demoralize us and therefore keep us from ever overthrowing them themselves.

But we will overthrow those enemies for having spent the past 2 years killing our soldiers. We will do so despite the opposite of "Granite State Conservatives." I just don't know what the plan is. Will we use secret indigenous armies? Do we have moles in place? I don't know.

Meanwhile, it just doesn't make sense that so many Rhinos in the Blue States AGREE with the leftists on this war. To me it is like they have no spine. They had no spine in the early 70s and gave the country to the leftists (while giving future enemies like Bin Laden a reason to believe we can be defeated with 7 years of effort in killing American troops), and now they are willingly giving places like New Hampshire and Wisconsin over to leftist hegemony, while signalling to our enemies that they can easily defeat "Granite State Conservatives" by killing American soldiers after they win a 3 week war in the future.

Our troops need to be in Iraq now because they need to finish training the Iraqi Army and or be moving into Iran and Syria soon.