Bush Answers Critics of Iraq War! (Bush fights back!)

AP | 8/23/05

[mware]

I am listening to Rush but have on Defense Dept briefing.

The news alert under Rummy is claiming that the commission was informed about ABLE DANGER.

[clawrence3]

LOL!

[GraniteStateConservative]

However, the 'this problem' involves Jordanian, Iranian, Syrian and Saudi terrorists as well.

Once we leave, they can send militias out to patrol the border. Though, we can't even secure our own border. What makes you think we will EVER be able to secure Iraq's border?

[bowlalpo]

FYI, The Fox site has taken down the AP story on this and replaced it with its own, and the Fox story includes references to the 2004 meeting.

'Looks like Fox reads Freeper writings!

A.P.

[MNJohnnie]

indication that he would change his mind and meet with Sheehan

Notice also how the AP still refuse to address the fact that it would be a SECOND meeting or that Democrat Party Front Group, Moveon.org, hired PR Giant Freen Communications to stage manage Sheehan's "protest" But that is ok, the more they talk, the more they remind people why the Hysteric Left cannot be trusted with ANY measure of political power

[MNJohnnie]

indication that he would change his mind and meet with Sheehan

Notice also how the AP still refuse to address the fact that it would be a SECOND meeting or that Democrat Party Front Group, Moveon.org, hired PR Giant Freen Communications to stage manage Sheehan's "protest" But that is ok, the more they talk, the more they remind people why the Hysteric Left cannot be trusted with ANY measure of political power

[GraniteStateConservative]

Do you think that a pullout from this war is a good idea?

It's funny what people are able to accomplish when they have no other alternative. Why do you think that Iraq, if it's truly interested in a peaceful democracy as we were told they were before the invasion, can't solve their own problems? It wouldn't be a pullout or a retreat. We have liberated Iraq from Saddam Hussein. Mission accomplished.

[Fudd Fan]

ALERT!

[RetiredArmy]

Like anything that is damning to Clinton, it will be ignored by the communist MSM and denied by the socialist democrats.

[Stultis]

We have gained a dishonorable reputation in the world of bugging out, leaving our allies in the lurch, not fulfilling obligations we've made, and leaving people to the tender mercies of their enemies. The President knows this.

Exactly. And it is exactly this that weakens America, undermines our aims, and discourages those that would support or ally with us. Of course this is what the left wants: a weak and marginalized America.

That was their goal, and what they managed to accomplish, in Vietnam. They lied then (as they are lying now) about only wanting to "bring the troops home." Instead, when they controlled congress, and after the troops were brought home, and a peace concluded (by a Republican president), they slashed aid to South Vietnam and our other allies in Indochina again and again, expended every ounce of political capital toward preventing enforcement of the peace accords, and took every opportunity to undermine, delegitimize and dispirit them. They did all of this gratuitously and proudly, and most horrifying they are still proud of it to this very day.

They must never hold power again.

[MNJohnnie]

Halliburton just paid me $100,000 to ban you.

I'll call up Dick and have the Big Oil cartel send you another $100,000 for a bonus on a job so well done. :-}

[mware]

Retired, the line has been drawn. Rummy says the Pentagon informed the commission.

Someone is a liar and I don't think it is Rummy.

[MNJohnnie]

They must never hold power again.

For your mouth to Gods ears.

[GraniteStateConservative]

When did "pullout" come to substitute for the words retreat and defeat anyway?

You're the one suggesting they are synonyms. A pullout just means to leave. We liberated Iraq. That was our mission (or one of them, the one we could pull off) and so it's perfectly reasonable to leave a field of battle after the mission is accomplished.

[Earthdweller]

God Bless Our Troops

[rip033]

I would take your idea one step further. I can't remember the last time I dropped 50 cents for one of my local rags. I gave up my subscription at least 5 to 6 years ago when I got sick of the left rhetoric. I do noticed that most the hotel chains have a free paper for you in the morning by your door. A lot of the time a USA today. Then I thought about it. I'm willing to bet that at least a third or maybe even half of the MSM's papers subscriptions are corporate type subscriptions that these companies buy to provide their customers for reading. Waiting rooms, hotel chains, etc. The fact may be they have even less dedicated subscribers then they think. Just because a major hotel chain provides daily editions of your paper doesn't mean you actually have a popular product. When I get my USA Today when traveling I just leave it on the floor and walk on it as I'm walking out the door. That's about all it's worth. The Internet is the new mass media. I can read several articles on one topic from various sources and make my own opinion.

[GraniteStateConservative]

we've already won the part of the war that our forces were designed to win. the administration never updated its message, its just a constant mantra of "stay the course". the public message needs to be much broader then that.

Right. No reason we can't declare victory and leave, except that Bush has painted us into a corner regarding the definition of success being a shining city on a hill in the Middle East. He's allowed the terms of victory to get ridiculously out of hand.

[MNJohnnie]

Once we leave, they can send militias out to patrol the border.

In which case the terrorists have no need to attack in Iraq. They get to Run around the madrassas screaming "We defeated the Americans join us in Jihad" and recruit the next generation of "Holy Warriors" to plan the next series of 9-11 style attacks. We need to draw the "Holy Warriors" out of hiding into a kill zone where their weakness (Convectional military power) is projected up against our strength (firepower, firepower, firepower). Iraq is about taking and maintaining the initiative in the War on Islamic Terror. Iraq is what Sze Tse called "Death Ground" a battle field the terrorists MUST fight on for political reasons. We cannot defend everything, appease or isolate ourselves from these people. I thought after 9-11 even the most cast iron conservative would realize that! Isolationism has NEVER worked. We must fight these people! Iraq is the IDEAL place to do it.

[RetiredArmy]

Me either.

[GraniteStateConservative]

It's pretty obvious you don't know very much about the M.E. Before you are allowed to pose that question...you have to answer the question on how 20% of the country imposed it's will on the other 80% of the country for damn near 50 years....

We wouldn't be leaving them in the arms of a military thug. There's clearly the makings of a government there. We can provide them with all the guns and ammo they could possibly need to hold off a threat from another military thug. That doesn't require any personnel, just equipment. We can even send groups of Iraqis to Europe for training, if you like.