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BEST PLACES TO LIVE
MSN House & Home ^ | 8/22/05 | MSN

Posted on 08/22/2005 9:54:18 PM PDT by txrangerette

"Here are today's Best Places to Live, as presented in the book, "Cities Ranked and Rated", by Bert Sperling and Peter Sander, published by John Wiley.

Here are Sperling and Sander's top picks for livability:

Charlottesville, Virginia ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Corvalis, Oregon"

(Excerpt) Read more at houseandhome.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Oregon; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: charlottesville; corvalis; topten
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To: I still care
I have family in Lawrenceville, which is an Atlanta suburb. It seems a great place to live. It's nice, new, lots of shopping, and near a major city for jobs. Traffic is another story.

Ahhh, that makes sense. It's all about nice, new, lots of shopping and major cities nearby. Who cares about traffic when you can go shopping. Ah, the world has long ago forgotten what living a good life is really all about. It's all about buying things...life, fast and easy. Dinner picked up at the local fast food joint, buying things one doesn't really need but sure makes them feel good for a minute. Status, egos, make a quick buck fast, and spend it faster. LOL

61 posted on 08/22/2005 11:04:30 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Clemenza

Every city is just a bunch of sprawling suburbs. I had an uncle who lived in Chicago. He'd agree.


62 posted on 08/22/2005 11:05:26 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Chena

Yes, but in Miami (where I have lived), Los Angeles, and Atlanta, Houston, etc. the cities themselves are very suburban (strip malls, tract housing) rather than urban in the classical sense.


63 posted on 08/22/2005 11:08:08 PM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I'll take Hicksville, every time. Where I live isn't on the list (too small), but the three largest cities in my state are. I wouldn't live there (I have lived in one of them) on a bet, too big!

You and me BOTH! City folks lose their souls to materialism. Anyone who says it isn't true, is lying. The fast pace leaves them wanting for more, but sadly, they seem to find solice in the big department stores, restaurants and what they call "parks". Parks, trees surrounded by asphalt. I'd laugh but it really is sad.

64 posted on 08/22/2005 11:09:06 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: wardaddy
You're a little PC reverse racist aren't you. I can't believe you uttered that dribble.

I don't think you got the meaning of my post. You really should read it again.

One of the things that makes big city life attractive is diversity. That is that the forced diversity that is such BS, but natural diversity.

An example would be New York. On one corner you may see a german bakery, on another a italian restaurant, etc.

It's nice to be able to go to different areas of town and take in the local culture.

My fiance is asian, so I by your post I guess I've been brainwashed. Where did you get that I don't like to be around white people?

Some people don't like ethnic diversity and they stay out of larger cities.

65 posted on 08/22/2005 11:11:13 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Clemenza

NYC could be a perfect place? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!! Yea, cram them in, shoulder to shoulder. I actually do appreciate the fact that some folks need thousands of people, shoulder to shoulder with them in order to feel like they are in the "perfect place".

Used to be the perfect place was in the woods, quiet home, children playing in the yard without fears of child abductions, good neighbors far enough away for privacy but close enough in case you ever needed them in an emergency. I'm so happy that most folks feel right at home in any U.S. city. I truly am.


66 posted on 08/22/2005 11:13:04 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Chena
It's all about nice, new, lots of shopping and major cities nearby.

Why would someone want less choices when they could have more? Live in the suburbs and you have access to a major city or head the other direction and enjoy more space.

67 posted on 08/22/2005 11:13:43 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta
Like any other major city, if you don't live in the high crime areas, the crime rate is very low. And also like any other major city, the high crime areas are relatively small and very much isolated from the rest of the city.

That's nice.

68 posted on 08/22/2005 11:14:50 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: wardaddy

Apparently, it is only one criteria among many. Proof is that Abilene, TX made #32 out of 331.

That is high, in my book.

Yet, Abilene is so un-PC.

Diversity? Hmmm. Do they mean it has three religiously-founded Universities by three different religious groups? Ha Ha. Or maybe, airman at Dyess AFB come there from all over the United States? Ha Ha. How about, they count "the elderly, retired population" as a special group, and we are running over with them?

I don't know. But a more conservative, politically incorrect city cannot be found, from what I know. Yet, #32. YES! Just think, wardaddy, just think!

Speaking of Anson, TX, oh yes, I know it extremely well. But that is where the PC-ers made the most fun of things. For years there was a law against holding dances in Anson. I used to see stories in the area media, with titles like..."No Dancin' in Anson", followed by a hootin' and hollerin' piece just for the fun of making fun.

Myself, I would write a story about the potholes in Anson streets, but that's just me.


69 posted on 08/22/2005 11:16:39 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Chena
Yes! Here a park is a place where they mow the grass and there is playground equipment, surrounded by uncut vegetation...(and no golfers...)!

But people are highly adaptable and can convince themselves anything is good if they think that is what they want.

Some thrive on a crowd, but to me a crowd is just a well behaved mob.

70 posted on 08/22/2005 11:17:00 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: Chena
That's nice.

Suit yourself. If you want to keep on believing that the crime rate of a huge metropolitan area is uniform, then be my guest.

71 posted on 08/22/2005 11:17:17 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Clemenza
Yes, but in Miami (where I have lived), Los Angeles, and Atlanta, Houston, etc. the cities themselves are very suburban (strip malls, tract housing) rather than urban in the classical sense.

Are "suburban" areas better then? Strip malls, tract housing....sounds lovely. ;) My brother-in-law used to live in Miami. He finally moved his family out of there when he came into work one day and found his co-worker had been murdered and stuffed in the freezer earlier that morning. Yea, Miami....yeehaaaa. I'm sure there are many people who like living there. IMO, Miami is a place I wouldn't want to visit and I sure don't want to live there. That's what makes this world a better place though...the herding of people together in one place. I personally like that philosophy. I really do.

72 posted on 08/22/2005 11:19:20 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: JeffAtlanta
It is nice to go to an event and not just be surrounded by a bunch of white people.

Whatever Jeff. Enjoy your MTV world.

BTW....my ex-wife is Brasilian and our two daughters hold dual citizenshio for now

I've lived in Rio, Sao Paulo, Caracas, Freetown Liberia, London, Manhattan, Miami, St Anns Jamaica, Port Au Prince, Bogota, Guatemala City, Dallas, Jackson MS, Oxford MS, Corpus Christi and Beaumont Texas and somehow I enjoyed all that diversity......without disparaging white folks

There was a time Jeff when no one felt compelled to live by ethnic interaction quotas in order to feel virtuous

The fact that a youngblood like yourself feels compelled to do just that tells me the LEFT won hands down in the education and culture areas since I was a kid.

Nearly everywhere has ethnic food nowadays btw.

73 posted on 08/22/2005 11:19:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (thinking.....)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Some people don't like ethnic diversity and they stay out of larger cities.I don't mind ethnic diversity, I just hate large cities!
74 posted on 08/22/2005 11:20:35 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: txrangerette

Where you a Kilgore Rangerette?


75 posted on 08/22/2005 11:20:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (thinking.....)
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To: Chena

If you have the money, Miami is a great place to live. It has the hottest real estate market in the state of Florida, btw. Beautiful women too. Couldn't take the humidity though.


76 posted on 08/22/2005 11:21:07 PM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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To: Chena

I've been to 32 states, btw, but have never made it to Alaska. What's Anchorage like as a city?


77 posted on 08/22/2005 11:21:51 PM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Funny, but in rural settings, the crime rate is usually uniform--virtually nil.


78 posted on 08/22/2005 11:22:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: Clemenza

i carry a gun every day in the city. and i dont make enough to pay too much in taxes. i guess my life is perfect. now if i could just get the olsen twins to return my calls and rescind that restraining order. ha.


79 posted on 08/22/2005 11:23:19 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: JeffAtlanta
Why would someone want less choices when they could have more? Live in the suburbs and you have access to a major city or head the other direction and enjoy more space.

That's exactly what I'm saying. MORE, MORE, MORE. LOL Ah yes, live in the suburbs and have access to major cities. When it all comes right down to the nitty-gritty, what you are saying is "spend more money". City life is all about spending money, being seen, IMO. I highly doubt many just decide to head into the city just to look around at the crime, homeless people and storefronts. Oh, heck, maybe some folks really DO enjoy that more than seeing trees, mountains, streams, and wildlife. But hey, like I've said, I'm not complaining about it. I LOVE the fact that people LOVE city life....suburbs...whatever. They are really all the same to me. :)

80 posted on 08/22/2005 11:23:24 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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