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To: chris1
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Virginians who grouse about illegal immigrants should open their eyes and see who’s really tending their lawns, putting new shingles on their roofs, cleaning toilets in their office building and hotels. Illegal immigrants are doing the dirty jobs that Virginians don’t want.

I see plenty of guys working their asses off in some of the worst heat that I have seen in VA in years. Yet, how is it that I can drive into poor neighborhoods and see able bodied adults loafing around with nothing to do? And, I don't hear people complaining that they are paying cheap wages for lawn and yard care services. Until more American consumers stop buying services from illegals there is no reason to expect that it will stop.

6 posted on 08/22/2005 1:17:54 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: misterrob

The problem is many-fold. First, the employers can charge you a cheap fee to cut your grass because they pay 7-8 per hour, no payroll taxes, workers comp, etc etc. Therefore, you are paying an artificially cheap cost for your service. Were these employers abiding by the law, they would not be able to stay in business. Its a bad problem, all caused by artifically low prices.

If the price were to go up, you might do it yourself.


11 posted on 08/22/2005 1:20:43 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton, Jr.)
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To: misterrob

Another thing, who picked the crops, cleaned the toilets, cut the grass, before these people invaded?


12 posted on 08/22/2005 1:21:38 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton, Jr.)
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To: misterrob

Those able bodied loafers are living off our welfare system. They won't work for minimum wage. In my opinion, they should be forced to work. Make our welfare deadbeats work some of the jobs the illegals are taking.

Also, those who say that the illegals are only taking jobs that Americans don't want is a downright LIE.


14 posted on 08/22/2005 1:24:14 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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I was driving through the barrio about 7:30 Saturday evening, and there they were - los vatos setting and standing right on their spots like they do all day even though it was getting dark. Now, I know they weren't going to get picked up for day labor jobs at that time of night. Whadd'ya spose they were waiting for?


96 posted on 08/22/2005 2:02:18 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: misterrob

That's right. But, the citizens here should be prepared to step up to the 'requirements' of having LEGAL people to do their short-work. Essentially, the bottom line is that immigrants, legal or illegal or not, are simply NOT needed in this country. Regardless of the pounding bleeding-heart crap about diversity is good for the nation, there are ENOUGH workers AND the capacity to pay the going rate (whatever that will float up to). Citizens here just need to realize that the problem of immigrants brings with it problems that are not IMMEDIATELY recognizable or effective. It's only later, when they eschew America's standards, language, and history while spending their every waking moment figuring out how to take advantage of bringing grandma or grandpa over to take advantage of reciprocal SS agreements etc. Go take a look at a social security office sometime and see exactly who's there....it sure ain't little old ladies with gray hair that look like your aunt. It's foreigners and young women and our own layabouts trying to SSI or disability...


123 posted on 08/22/2005 2:15:13 PM PDT by Gaffer
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