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Immigrant bashing won’t fix problems
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | August 23, 2005 | Editorial

Posted on 08/22/2005 1:10:58 PM PDT by bayourod

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To: vrwc0915

youll have to forgive dane, he doesnt understand that cheap labor outweighs the crime, hospitals going bankrupt, or strain on our educational/welfare system....

of course if you oppose that, you're a marxist. LOL


41 posted on 08/22/2005 1:36:19 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: Chena

'Tax-eaters'. They eat. That's all they do.
I see them on my way to work every morning, American men in their 30s . They'll roll out of the sack to fish and play basketball after staying out late, making the newspaper.
Enforce our immigration laws and they'll have jobs. And if they won't work, they don't eat.
Aren't you fed up with getting into the `harness' every morning--so these clowns can ride? Vote the FreeRepublican ticket!


42 posted on 08/22/2005 1:36:39 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: chris1

And, for the people getting cheap goods and services as well.


43 posted on 08/22/2005 1:36:44 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: Dane

You obviously have ZERO experience in business. Workers Comp is there so that the employer does not get sue every time the employee stubs his toe.

Plus, those are the rules, if you don't like it change it. You can not pick and chose what laws you want to obey if it does not fit your liking.

Deal with it.


44 posted on 08/22/2005 1:36:50 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton, Jr.)
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To: bayourod

What a bunch of leftist, touchy-feely drivel.

Of course, mindless racism won't solve the problem, but neither will holding hands and singing "Kumbaya" with people who aren't -BY LAW- supposed to be here!

Geesh. Take some of that money illegal immigrants have saved you, Pilot writer, and buy yourself a clue!


45 posted on 08/22/2005 1:37:00 PM PDT by exnavychick (We're damned if we do, damned if we don't...so my vote goes for "do.")
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To: caisson71

Last week a Survey of 1200 Mexicans was published. It showed that 52% of the Mexicans surveyed in ages 18-29 would live in the USA if they could. If that is the case, then President Vincente Fox has a problem and he had better deal with it before they rise up and overthrow his government.

As long as he is pushing his people to leave Mexico and come to the USA, I propose that they bring the Country with them. If we are going to get 52% of the 100,000,000 people in Mexico, then we might as well go for the resources to support them.

Let them appliy for USA STATEHOOD.

Mexico City, Arizona, USA has a nice ring to it don't you think?
How about Juarez, Texas, USA? Tijuana, California, USA?

They sound lots better to me than Los Angeles, Mexico!


RamS


46 posted on 08/22/2005 1:37:07 PM PDT by RamingtonStall (More Guns ==> Less Crime! Get your CHL today! http://www.ohioccw.org/)
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To: misterrob
They take whatever job they can and shame on the people who hire illegals.....they are the real root of the problem in my mind.

The businesses, and private citizens as well, who hire "illegals" are a HUGE part of this problem. But I do also keep in the mind the fact that some of the "illegals" who sneak into our country are NOT coming here to find work. There are dangerous criminals, and drug-runners mixed in with the rest. As if that wasn't bad enough, we now are faced with the very likely scenario of terrorists sneaking into our country as well. I'd bet my bottom dollar that some already have. I've said it before and I'll say it again, and again. Those who think that the illegal immigration problem can be solved completely by only addressing the "employers" of these illegals, are wrong. As long as our borders are open, there will ALWAYS be more illegals coming through it.

47 posted on 08/22/2005 1:37:21 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: bayourod
Pap

NOUN: Material lacking real value or substance. As in your article.
48 posted on 08/22/2005 1:37:44 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Proud member of the 21st century Christian Crusaders)
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To: chris1
my opinion is that our society has become lazy by virtue of looking to these people as less than human and living mules.

Gee then I guess the natural human condition for you is for millions to want to move and to work and live in a "society", that traets people as less human as mules.

49 posted on 08/22/2005 1:37:44 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
My angle is that obtaining a better bottom line by using illegal labor, is not worth turning the USA into a 3rd world cesspool. If a business can't survive using legal labor than you have a crappy business model and if the services that your provide are desired people will pay for them.
50 posted on 08/22/2005 1:37:55 PM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

No, they don't. Such is the life of a OBL sock puppet....

for some good info, see post #33


51 posted on 08/22/2005 1:37:55 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: bayourod

I have the perfect solution to the Illegal Immigrant problem. Let's Annex Mexico! Vincente Fox doesn't appear to want it anymore and the people all want to be here anyway!

Statehood for Mexico today!

RamS


52 posted on 08/22/2005 1:38:54 PM PDT by RamingtonStall (More Guns ==> Less Crime! Get your CHL today! http://www.ohioccw.org/)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark. :)


53 posted on 08/22/2005 1:38:58 PM PDT by exnavychick (We're damned if we do, damned if we don't...so my vote goes for "do.")
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To: Stellar Dendrite; bayourod
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1449544/posts?page=72#72

The quote that keeps on giving!

One of my favorite lines is the closer: "...all my relations with Hispanics have been good. Can't say that about Nigerians and half a dozen other types."

So what have you got against Nigerians, 'roid? Can't be their skin color, so what is it? And who exactly are these "half a dozen other types" of whom you speak? C'mon, don't be shy, you're among friends here!

54 posted on 08/22/2005 1:39:55 PM PDT by cartman90210 ("Sorry kids, those people from the future will do the same job for 25 cents!")
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To: Chena

Cut down on the supply of jobs and the enforcement issue becomes that much easier to do. It's nuts to think that simply enforcing the borders will do the trick. As long as their is economic incentive for people to come there then they will.

Oh, and tell Vinny Fox to kiss our ass. We will shoot anyone invading our country in a time of war.


55 posted on 08/22/2005 1:40:01 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: chris1
Workers Comp is there so that the employer does not get sue every time the employee stubs his toe.

And it's also there for good native born Americans to get a check every month claiming a slipped disc, while playing in local baseball leagues.

Workers comp is fraud central.

56 posted on 08/22/2005 1:40:10 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: misterrob
Bad analogy.....

I disagree. Why should one who commits a crime to do what he "does well" be admired?

I will admit some Illegals exhibit a certain amount of zeal towards a task at hand. That is not to say I've seen too terribly many execute that task well. This from 20 year in the textile industry.

That said, I agree that seriously limited welfare would effectively end this "jobs Americans wont do" line of bs.
57 posted on 08/22/2005 1:40:16 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: exnavychick; All

Again:
Please someone tell me why we need a single illegal immigrant, and how it benefit's the USA. I am not being sarcastic I want the "undocumented worker" fan club to give me one reason why having illegal aliens residing in the USA is a good thing. Furthermore please advise me how rewarding people who broke the law to enter helps the USA's interests


58 posted on 08/22/2005 1:40:50 PM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: Dane

Being reasonable in a discussion would benefit you. I don't recall anyone saying that "those people who do such things such as grow food and build buildings are "evil". I haven't even heard that suggested.

They aren't "evil", they are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who chose not to go through the designated borders and do the paperwork it takes to enter this country LEGALLY.

It is one thing to have an opinion, but if you can't be reasonable, stop posting. :)


59 posted on 08/22/2005 1:41:09 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: misterrob

True. We have become spoiled based on slave wages paid to
these desparate people.

Personally, I would like these people bused home, and Yuppie trash start cleaning their own cars, cutting their own grass, and cleaning their own toilets. It builds charachter.


60 posted on 08/22/2005 1:41:28 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton, Jr.)
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