Again, "if a tradition did not meet the requirements for a sahih Hadith, it was not accepted into the family of sahih Hadith by Ishaq, Tabari, Bukhari, Dawud, or Muslim. Therefore, the standard Hadith collections are considered by traditional Muslim scholarship to be sahih. Thus, it is unjustified to use a weak Hadith defense when a sahih Hadith is used to present the actions and teachings of Muhammad."
"woman has to ransom herself to be free from her tyrannical husband; she can ransom herself from her husband for more than he gave her…29.10.32"
m11.13 (Ref: 8, p546)
Ref: 9, p192)
Again, the woman needs to ask permission of a judge and "ransom" herself with an expensive payment.
The woman CANNOT INITIATE divorce proceedings.
Maliki school—khul is a divorce by giving something in return.
Hanafi school—khul is end of marriage with the utterance of the word ‘khul’.
Shafii school—khul is a separation sought with something given in return and with the pronouncement of the word ‘khul’. Can be through mutual agreement or through the order of Kadi on payment by wife to the husband a certain amount not exceeding what was given to her as dower (mahr).
If the husband forces the ‘khul’ then the wife can keep the mahr.
Khul can be demanded only in extreme cases. Can’t be on flimsy grounds. (Although a husband can initiate divorce on no grounds)
Hadis “The women asking for separation and ‘khul’ are hypocrites”.
Khul is makruh ie it is disliked
Your arguments are the talking points of islamist apologists who are "uncomfortable" with the truths of their faith.
I've quoted sources. Your answer is to state that those sources are optional and open to interpretation. The above states otherwise, but I suspect you're well aware of this.
quran002.228
" Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise."
"but men have a degree (of advantage) over them." Clearly establishes men and women are NOT equal in islam...according to your quran.
quran004.034
Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard.
quran 002.282 Woman's witness is only half of man's.
quran002.222
"They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness,
You: "In other words, she initiates the divorce much in the same way a woman here would file for divorce with the court."
No. She needs to ask permission, pay ransom, etc.
The husband has no such limitations.
BTW, nice to see you're now getting an education on the differences between schools of Islamic jurisprudence now that you know they exist. But knowing and realizing are two different things. You see there are multiple schools yet cannot see the obvious related fact: different schools means different implementations of shari'a.
No. She needs to ask permission, pay ransom, etc. The husband has no such limitations.
You're using some messed up translations. She has to give money back, and possibly a fine if she's pretty bad. Asking permission from the court is the same thing as initiating a divorce. Either she or the husband initiates, and the husband certainly isn't doing it if she's the one petitioning the court.
You keep saying that it isn't perfectly equal as if I'd said they are perfectly equal, and I never said that, only that you made it seem worse than it is in order to villify a religion you hate. Hate and ignorance always go hand in hand.