And that has what to do about marriage? Anyway, you should look at your own Bible before talking about women in Islam. I believe Jesus warned against doing things like that.
And again, a woman CANNOT initiate divorce proceedings.
They can according to the Quran, although maybe not in these created societies. I showed you.
The Hadith Collections compiled by the Sunnah writers are said to explain the quran. They are, together with the quran, islam.
As believed by some, not all. The Quran warned against these stories being told about Mohammed. A minority of Muslims outright rejects all Hadith and Sunna.
Do you accept, as a muslim, this hadith?
Who said I was a Muslim? I've just been studying it for 14 years.
Do muslims not believe that the hadith are supposedly also "inspired" oral traditions that explain the quran?
Depends on which Muslim you're talking about and which Hadith you're referring to. Bukhari was a misogynist.
Oh yes it is, in fact much worse than you are willing to admit, or accept.
The problem is that Islamic law is what the local mullahs want it to be, not necessarily what's in the Quran, or even Hadith or Sunna if you believe them. I am talking about the Quran, not the mullahs.
Are you suggesting women are only defined by marriage, or in relation to men?
Anyway, you should look at your own Bible before talking about women in Islam. I believe Jesus warned against doing things like that.
What are you refering to?
You might want to review. Here is what initiated our conversation:
Me: "Most middle eastern countries do not allow women to drive, non-muslims have no rights in court against muslims, non-muslims must pay the jizya tax, and women don't have the same property rights or divorce rights as men do."
You: "And that has what to do about marriage?"
You might want to look through your original posts before you reply.
You: "Anyway, you should look at your own Bible before talking about women in Islam."
I will repeat it AGAIN. The topic is islamic law. Don't stray off topic. Are you deliberately trying to change the topic?
Me: "And again, a woman CANNOT initiate divorce proceedings.
You: "They can according to the Quran, although maybe not in these created societies. I showed you."
No, you didn't. Again, and again, NO SHE CANNOT INITIATE DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS. I showed you...again, you might want to review those posts.
You: "Who said I was a Muslim? I've just been studying it for 14 years." Studying it for 14 years? Studying it for 14 years? Judging by your posts, I'd like to say, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.
You: "A minority of Muslims outright rejects all Hadith and Sunna."
What is your proof for the above assertation and why have we not heard of them before? What would happen in a country like Iran for the above muslims? Blasphemy charges? Labeled as apostates? Are they considered "good" muslims. Come now...
"Depends on which Muslim you're talking about and which Hadith you're referring to."
So, in other words, you're saying they may "pick and choose?" No, I think not.
You: "The problem is that Islamic law is what the local mullahs want it to be, not necessarily what's in the Quran, or even Hadith or Sunna if you believe them. I am talking about the Quran, not the mullahs."
No, absolutely false. Islamic law IS indeed based on the quran and not the "wishes of the local mullah".
Please, do not enter into this discussion until you are able to post the correct information.
I documented the inequality of women under sharia...'