You might want to review. Here is what initiated our conversation:
Me: "Most middle eastern countries do not allow women to drive, non-muslims have no rights in court against muslims, non-muslims must pay the jizya tax, and women don't have the same property rights or divorce rights as men do."
You: "And that has what to do about marriage?"
You might want to look through your original posts before you reply.
You: "Anyway, you should look at your own Bible before talking about women in Islam."
I will repeat it AGAIN. The topic is islamic law. Don't stray off topic. Are you deliberately trying to change the topic?
Me: "And again, a woman CANNOT initiate divorce proceedings.
You: "They can according to the Quran, although maybe not in these created societies. I showed you."
No, you didn't. Again, and again, NO SHE CANNOT INITIATE DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS. I showed you...again, you might want to review those posts.
You: "Who said I was a Muslim? I've just been studying it for 14 years." Studying it for 14 years? Studying it for 14 years? Judging by your posts, I'd like to say, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.
You: "A minority of Muslims outright rejects all Hadith and Sunna."
What is your proof for the above assertation and why have we not heard of them before? What would happen in a country like Iran for the above muslims? Blasphemy charges? Labeled as apostates? Are they considered "good" muslims. Come now...
"Depends on which Muslim you're talking about and which Hadith you're referring to."
So, in other words, you're saying they may "pick and choose?" No, I think not.
You: "The problem is that Islamic law is what the local mullahs want it to be, not necessarily what's in the Quran, or even Hadith or Sunna if you believe them. I am talking about the Quran, not the mullahs."
No, absolutely false. Islamic law IS indeed based on the quran and not the "wishes of the local mullah".
Please, do not enter into this discussion until you are able to post the correct information.
I documented the inequality of women under sharia...'
I picked a subset of the topic because I didn't want to be writing all day long.
No, you didn't. Again, and again, NO SHE CANNOT INITIATE DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS. I showed you...again, you might want to review those posts.
Have you even done basic research? They even have specific words for wife-initiated divorce, khul' or haqq-i-faskh, depending on the situation. That's considering the wife wasn't smart enough to write divorce conditions into the marriage contract (like a Western pre-nup).
Studying it for 14 years? Judging by your posts, I'd like to say, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.
At least I know a woman can divorce her husband.
What is your proof for the above assertation and why have we not heard of them before?
Here's some proof. Not we, but you haven't heard about them because a) they don't blow up buildings and b) you don't bother to research.
So, in other words, you're saying they may "pick and choose?"
Yes, they do, and they interpret them differently. Do you even know that there are different schools of jurisprudence in Islam? How much weight do you think a Shiite gives a Hadith with Aisha as the source?
No, absolutely false. Islamic law IS indeed based on the quran
The law is indeed based on the interpretation of the Quran, Hadith and Sunna. That interpretation will be done by those in power according to their idea of how things should be.
I'll give you a simple example: women being covered. Off the same text, different societies have different rules as to whether they should be covered and how much. You go from the liberal Turkey (not enforced) to Taliban-controlled Afghanistan (get beaten or worse). The Taliban remember the rule for covering, but forget the rule that you can't force her to do so.