Iraqis reach agreement

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[leadpenny]

I've never seen Breaking News on C-SPAN before but they just flashed a comment on the bottom of the screen that an agreement has been reached on a constitution at 10:25 ET.

[bnelson44]

The problem is that under the system that's set up, they have the votes to scuttle the proposed Constitution when it comes up for referendum. That'd start the whole election process over again....

Your assuming all Sunni are the same politically. Don't. There are many types of Sunni, like there are many types of Baptists, and some have already agreed with the constitutional draft.

[bill1952]

The strain of Islam currently practiced in Iraq, both Shia and Sunni, has consistently rejected the wahabbi influence,

As has the Iranian strain. Is that any better?

[Celtman]

No more American blood for Islamic law!

      Amen. 
      I am reminded of Matthew 12:

When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.  Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.  Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. 

      Saddam Hussein was bad.  Sharia is worse.

[60 Miles North]

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- The head of the committee drafting Iraq's constitution said Tuesday that three days are not enough to win over the Sunni Arabs, and the document they rejected may ultimately have to be approved by parliament as is and submitted to the people in a referendum. Iraqi leaders completed a draft Monday night and submitted it to parliament, but with only minutes to go before a midnight deadline, they delayed a vote to give them time to convince Sunni Arab negotiators to accept it.

[sageb1]

"They have been saying for months now that Iraq would end up with a theocracy.."

If the clerics are given constitutional powers, that's exactly what they will end up with - and I'm as far from liberal as you can get.

[WhiteGuy]

Did they agree to pay back the American Taxpayers the $300 Thousand Million (plus interest) that made all this possible?


Just wondering............

[sageb1]

"So be patient and don't sweat it."

Instant communication has changed the time frame within which change can and needs to occur, so although that argument has some validity, it is not completely relevant.

I suggest it is not time to go back to sleep.

[sono]

Isn't Afghanistan's constitution based on Islam?

[sageb1]

"This new constitution will not create an Islamic state nor a theocracy as in Iran or Saudi Arabia. Islam will be a main source of civil laws as in the case of every muslim country in the world including Turkey, the most secular of them all. As in our case our Judeo-Chrisitan religion has influenced a lot of the thinking in writing the laws of the nation, Islam will play this role in Iraq. It will have an effect mostly on divorce, marriage and other civil cases. There will be no mullahs that will rule Iraq and women will still have the rights to vote and be elected or appointed to many government offices."

Time will tell. However, no country that relies on any form of Islamic leadership can be trusted.

[sageb1]

"They even chose a Hadith where the prophet is supposed to have legalized having a social contract with "nonbelievers" if that contract is going to serve the interests of the community"

When will they understand that their so-called prophet was nothing but a hypocrite? He would tell them anything as long as it suited his own purpose. When one law no longer served him, he simply changed it and made up another hadith.

[sono]

Sorta like the IRS ...

[sageb1]

I apologize. I didn't see your question earlier. Aghanistan enjoys a freah takeover every few years. Their socialist government was overthrown and replaced by the Mujahideen in 1992 (note I said replaced, no free elections here), who subsequently declared an Islamic State. Then they were replaced by the Taliban until the U.S. came in. There will always be violence and instability in any country where Islamic law takes precedence.

[sageb1]

lol! yeah...