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King Sponsors Immigration Forum - "I suggest build a fence - it's cheap."
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Posted on 08/22/2005 6:09:02 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

Des Moines, August 22nd, 2005- The debate over how to control illegal immigration takes center stage today at a forum here in Des Moines. Iowa Congressman Steve King is sponsoring this forum.

Not only are some of his ideas controversial, so are some of the guests-- including the leader of the Minuteman project. It's a volunteer group that began patrolling the U.S.- Mexico border in April looking for illegal immigrants trying to cross over. The group does not have any official sanctioning from U.S. immigration officials.

Congressman King has his own ideas on how to solve the border issue, "I suggest this. Build a fence- it's cheap, you can build it 10 foot high with barb wire on top for 680 million dollars. We spend six billion a year just incarcerating criminal aliens against those who come in and commit crimes against Americans. This would make the best return."

Many Latino organizations are promising to meet ideas like the Minuteman project.and a fence around the U.S., with fierce opposition. Today's forum will also focus on immigration's impact on homeland security as well as on the economy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Iowa; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; immigrationreform
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To: Happy2BMe

Just add the razor wire.

21 posted on 08/22/2005 7:01:52 AM PDT by afnamvet (Jet Noise...The Sound of Freedom)
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To: finnman69

Several miles south of the DMZ. South Korea does not have a real problem with an invasion of illegal immigrants from the north.

22 posted on 08/22/2005 7:02:17 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Happy2BMe; King Prout; finnman69
http://www.concretefence.com/pages/homelandsecurity.htm

Informacion del OHV


23 posted on 08/22/2005 7:03:22 AM PDT by FBD ("...the border is a dangerous place..."~DHS Sec. Michael Chertoff House Testimony)
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To: agincourt1415

Ah, well, that is a different story.  Yeah, I agree, something of those specs would definitely work.  It'd cost a lot more than what's listed in the article, but the direct negative financial impact (not including the costs of the crime and disease they bring) would more than offset construction costs.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

24 posted on 08/22/2005 7:03:28 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: FBD
Works for the Israelis


25 posted on 08/22/2005 7:15:07 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Happy2BMe
"I suggest this. Build a fence- it's cheap, you can build it 10 foot high with barb wire on top for 680 million dollars.

Heh. Gonna need a lot stronger fence than this so lets do it! Spend 10 billion on a Mexico border fence and it will definitely hold back the invading hordes.

26 posted on 08/22/2005 7:17:10 AM PDT by dennisw (Muhammad was a successful Hitler. Hitler killed too many people too fast - L. Auster)
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To: All

FYI

the Israeli fence is costing $2 million per kilometer.
http://www.peacenow.org/briefs.asp?rid=&cid=187


2000 miles of US-Mexico Border = approx 3219km x $2 million per kilometer = $6.438 billion construction costs assuming you need to build the fence the entire length. That figure does not include an obvious discounting for the sheer volume of work involved.


27 posted on 08/22/2005 7:18:35 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Happy2BMe

How about a new fresh water shipping canal from Texas to California stocked with pirana.


28 posted on 08/22/2005 7:19:03 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: All

How do you say " no entrty" or the best spanish equivalent in spanish?


29 posted on 08/22/2005 7:23:12 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69; bayoufraud
yup. Btw, nice graphic demonstrating the effectiveness of Israel's wall.
Someone ought to post that to bayoufraud
30 posted on 08/22/2005 7:24:19 AM PDT by FBD ("...the border is a dangerous place..."~DHS Sec. Michael Chertoff House Testimony)
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To: Happy2BMe
Many Latino organizations are promising to meet ideas like the Minuteman project.and a fence around the U.S., with fierce opposition.

Latino first, American second (or third or fourth or last)...


31 posted on 08/22/2005 7:26:55 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, grow up!)
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To: finnman69
6.4 billion is chump change, I would guess that we loose that in one year alone just in "free" medical care given to illegal immigrants
32 posted on 08/22/2005 7:33:35 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: bayourod

ping!


33 posted on 08/22/2005 7:34:01 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terrorists-beyond your expectations!)
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To: finnman69; dennisw; King Prout; Happy2BMe; Owl_Eagle; Travis McGee
"2000 miles of US-Mexico Border = approx 3219km x $2 million per kilometer = $6.438 billion construction costs assuming you need to build the fence the entire length. That figure does not include an obvious discounting for the sheer volume of work involved."

-dennisw has a more accurate cost of a border wall/fence.
(As much as 10 billion)

Due to the terrain along the Mexican border, the cost would probably be higher then Israels 2 million per kilometer. Some areas of the Israeli fence cost as much as 4 million per kilometer.
Nevertheless, even at 10 billion, it would still be worth the cost.

But the argument of chain link vs concrete wall? Anything would be better then what we have at present:

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34 posted on 08/22/2005 7:42:11 AM PDT by FBD ("...the border is a dangerous place..."~DHS Sec. Michael Chertoff House Testimony)
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To: Owl_Eagle

A fence is a great idea. In the meantime every illegal caught should receive a mandatory jail sentence. We should deduct both the cost for capturing the illegal and incarceration from the aid we give to that country. The corrupt officials from Mexico, etc... will then act to help stem the tide of illegal immigration. People react when you hurt them in their wallets.


35 posted on 08/22/2005 8:29:51 AM PDT by doc
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To: Happy2BMe
Let's make it a wall. A wall similiar to the one that Israel is constructing today. In the long run, the price the American taxpayers will shell-out for a right and proper security wall will pay for itself. There would be immediate savings from legal services afforded illegals and the huge reductions in government welfare handouts to illegals would lift the strain to our nations infrastructure.
36 posted on 08/22/2005 9:02:37 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: RockinRight

-Make the fence electric and you've got yourself a deal.-

Heh-heh. If they add a couple of land mines, I'm on board, too!


37 posted on 08/22/2005 9:06:29 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Reagan Man
Israel's security fence which is a wall in some areas. This kind of double fence has patrol roads for quick resonse and sensors, would keep out the Mexican invaders and other pests trying to jam into the United States of America

israel_wall_fence

38 posted on 08/22/2005 9:07:20 AM PDT by dennisw (Muhammad was a successful Hitler. Hitler killed too many people too fast - L. Auster)
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To: Happy2BMe

Since everyone is throwing around ball park figures for construction of a fence and/or a wall to secure our borders, let's not forget the Border Patrol. The BP needs serious beefing up and the feds needs to start that process NOW. If you open employment hiring to experienced law enforcement officials and start them out at say $50K/year with benefits, you would get many folks applying who could get the job done. Double the amount of BP agents from the current level of 10K to 20K and you'd spend $500-million/year. Increase to 30K and it would cost $1-billion. If you went to 100K BP agents, a ten fold increase, that would cost the American taxpayer $5-billion. When you consider that the recent highway bill the President signed into law contained some $30-billion in pork barrel projects, increasing the size of the BP ten fold and building a wall on our borders is really a drop in the political bucket.


39 posted on 08/22/2005 9:17:27 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: dennisw
The Berlin Wall is the perfect model for population control even better than the China Wall. Of course, those culturally deprived Ruski shoot-to-kill wall-guards were not blessed with sanctimonious America's hypocritical notions of moral superiority and politically correct war strategies.

Come spend a couple days and nights on the border from Columbus, NM, west. Then let's talk about how to stop a hemorrhage with band aids, and about the merits of a Berlin Wall across the New Mexico border.

40 posted on 08/22/2005 9:34:40 AM PDT by tailgunner (US freeholders are ALL squatters now!)
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