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To: wagglebee
YOU SAID..."I think we are starting to get a really good idea of what Sandy Burglar took!"

No...this material generated by the Able Danger team was never under the direct control of Sandy Berger even when he was still NSA. IMO, the materials Sandy took were copies of reports or memos which had handwritten notations referring to Able Danger and Gorelicks memo.

Able Danger info would not be stored in the National Archives....for reasons demonstrated by Sandy and his trusty pants. This is military intelligence stuff...intelligence is always compartmentalized.

The Able Danger operation was a top secret military team using very special computer equipment in a highly secured and controlled environment within a larger controlled military facility.

The computers used would hardly be like desktop DELLs. The entire secure Fault Tolerant computer and network configuration would be designed and built to exacting requirements by a vendor under a DOD contract.

It would be impossible IMO for this information, likely stored for archival purposes on encrypted redundant electronic media (like a secure RAID for example)....to just disappear. Most likely the paper copies Shaeffer referred to were hardcopies of reports or database entries in a summary format, whereas the supporting info...he said there were terabytes...would not itself be on paper media.

Its possible that some of the paper reports could have been misplaced...but I think its highly unlikely. All copies of classified material are also similarly classified, each copy is logged...and placed in a secured safe, with a designated custodian.

To get to the primary electronic archived material, however, would require login access to the main computers, an even higher security authorization, and the proper ID and cypher codes.

No way the archived info disappears without somebody high up in the command chain giving a direct order to make it disappear. The person or persons receiving such an order would never divulge receipt if ordered to remain silent...if they want to stay in the military and stay out of jail.

JMHO of course.
254 posted on 08/21/2005 11:14:47 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: Dat Mon

If you read the other things I wrote on this thread, you will see that I agree with you. The Clintonistas had to figure that Able Danger would come out sooner or later. Berger's job was to try to remove any memos, notes or meeting minutes that could establish a direct link between Clinton and Able Danger. IIRC, Berger took the documents AFTER Ashcroft revealed the existence of the Gorelick memo; if this is correct, the Clintonistas knew it was only a matter of time until it was discovered what the full ramifications of Gorelick's wall was.


261 posted on 08/22/2005 5:26:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Dat Mon

Two more witnesses to corroborate a key part of Schaffer's story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1468528/posts

The story is progressing if the NY Times feels they can't ignore it, but we really need computer files and/or documentary evidence to move it into a bigger story. Recollections of a few individuals will never move most of the MSM without irrefutable evidence.... of course, if the media saw this as an embarrassment to Bush then they would have jumped on it with both feet already. Since they can see the threat to the Clintonlites and the 9/11 O-missioners, the story will have to be dragged out of them..... I'm cautiously hopeful but NOT optimistic. [Hope is possible without confidence, but optimism requires that you actually believe something is likely to happen.....]


273 posted on 08/22/2005 5:57:36 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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