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To: Nicholas Conradin
actually neither side should be taught.

if you teach that a god created the universe... you are promoting promoting the religions of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, or Hinduism.

if you teach that nothing created the universe... you are promoting the religion of atheism.
2 posted on 08/20/2005 5:50:51 PM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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To: Texas_Conservative2
actually neither side should be taught. if you teach that a god created the universe... you are promoting promoting the religions of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, or Hinduism. if you teach that nothing created the universe... you are promoting the religion of atheism.

That's why you keep religion out of it, and stick with evidence. Why people insist on demoting Scripture to the level of ludicrous science text is beyond me...

6 posted on 08/20/2005 6:07:13 PM PDT by podkane
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To: Texas_Conservative2
if you teach that nothing created the universe... you are promoting the religion of atheism.
ToE doesn't address origin, just how matter evolved over time. It doesn't promote nor deny the existence of God.
19 posted on 08/20/2005 6:35:43 PM PDT by Redgirl (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: Texas_Conservative2
actually neither side should be taught. ... if you teach that nothing created the universe...

Why do you lie about the teaching of evolution?

27 posted on 08/20/2005 6:45:58 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Texas_Conservative2
I appreciate these threads, but I am mostly reluctant to post on them ordinarily.

Some of the claims in your post are dubious. That is not unusual when this subject matter comes up.

Just about any professor or teacher in the sciences would likely define "Evolution" as a unifying theory. THAT is the significant aspect of the theory.

Just as in mathematics where certain concepts are defined as "undefined," Evolution is likewise a place (or theory) from where all can move forward in study and dialogue...etc.

I find these threads to be intriguing, but the animosity which sometimes rears up is regrettable.

How many of those who object to the theory of evolution would also object to the notion that "Pi" is a valid unifying theory of geometry? Pi is essentially undefined, but its existence is a unifying force. Many other examples exist concerning the nature of the Universe.
41 posted on 08/20/2005 7:03:16 PM PDT by Radix (Why do they call them Morons when they do not know as much? Shouldn't they be Lessons?)
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To: Texas_Conservative2
if you teach that a god created the universe... you are promoting promoting the religions...if you teach that nothing created the universe... you are promoting the religion of atheism.

How about instead of teaching either of those, we instead teach the well-established science of evolutionary biology.

308 posted on 08/21/2005 8:50:47 AM PDT by beavus (Hussein's war. Bush's response.)
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To: Texas_Conservative2

Not exactly, if you teach that nothing created the universe... you are just are, well for lack of a better term... stupid.

Science dictates that NOTHING acts without being acted upon by other forces... so for the universe to exist, something must have acted upon it to create it.

No matter how far science goes back into the create, or even precreation of our universe in its current form.. you have to keep going back to what moved that before that.... and eventually you wind up with SOMETHING from NOTHING.. and as science tells us, something cannot come from nothing.

So the only thing that can create something from nothing is the Almighty. He is the first mover, and the end game... or to quote his own word, the Alpha and the Omega.

Science will never answer the first mover problem, it can't.


481 posted on 08/26/2005 8:09:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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