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2 Illegal Immigrants Win Arizona Ranch in Court (Judicial Tyranny IV)
N Y TIMES ^ | AUGUST 19, 2005 | ANDREW POLLACK

Posted on 08/19/2005 2:19:28 PM PDT by radar101

A few months ago, this ranch was known as Camp Thunderbird, the headquarters of a paramilitary group that promised to use force to keep illegal immigrants from sneaking across the border with Mexico.

Now, the 70-acre property about two miles from the border is being given to two immigrants whom the group caught trying to enter the United States illegally.

The land transfer is being made to satisfy judgments in a lawsuit in which the immigrants had said that Casey Nethercott, the owner of the ranch and a former leader of the vigilante group Ranch Rescue, had harmed them.

"Certainly it's poetic justice that these undocumented workers own this land," said Morris S. Dees Jr., co-founder and chief trial counsel of the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala., which represented the immigrants in their lawsuit.

Mr. Dees said the loss of the ranch would "send a pretty important message to those who come to the border to use violence."

Mr. Mancía, who lives in Los Angeles, and Ms. Leiva, who lives in the Dallas area, have applied for visas that are available to immigrants who are the victims of certain crimes and who cooperate with the authorities, Ms. Bruner said.

Mr. Mancía and Ms. Leiva were caught on a ranch in Hebbronville, Tex., in March 2003 by Mr. Nethercott and other members of Ranch Rescue. The two immigrants later accused Mr. Nethercott of threatening them and of hitting Mr. Mancía with a pistol, charges that Mr. Nethercott denied. The immigrants also said the group gave them cookies, water and a blanket and let them go after an hour or so. The immigrants said the ordeal, in which they feared that they would be killed by the men they thought were soldiers, had left them with post-traumatic stress.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; litigation; propertyrights; seizure
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To: The SISU kid

What does locked mean ??? I'm posting?


61 posted on 08/19/2005 3:04:49 PM PDT by iconoclast (Wastin' away again in hearts-and-minds'ville.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Thanks, my thick head has now absorbed what ya'll mean. Thanks for your patience....
susie


62 posted on 08/19/2005 3:05:32 PM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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To: iconoclast

The other thread got locked (no new posts) after a bunch of trolls showed up and talked trash about shooting people.


63 posted on 08/19/2005 3:06:02 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Beauceron
"Thanks to the SPLC."

What was their 'cut.' You'll never know.

64 posted on 08/19/2005 3:11:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: sushiman
What they aren't taking over just by virtue of sheer numbers ( e.g. Los Angeles ) , we're handing to them on a silver platter

Passed a spanking new mall yesterday on the I-105 (which Southern Californians call the "Barrio-bahn") called "Plaza Mexico." Passed a lot of billboards in Spanish too---no English ("ABOGADOS! Lastimado? Llame en seguida!!" etc.)

65 posted on 08/19/2005 3:13:24 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: blam
Just the fact that Morris Dees walks around breathing is a tribute to the tolerance of the American people.
66 posted on 08/19/2005 3:14:54 PM PDT by iconoclast (Wastin' away again in hearts-and-minds'ville.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

"Somebody should tell President Bush about this case and remind him he has a ranch in Texas, maybe then he will don't something about the borders"

Bush's ranch is protected by US, the taxpayers, via his personal SS. Do you really think this could happen to his property?


68 posted on 08/19/2005 3:22:27 PM PDT by jcparks (LFOD)
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To: iconoclast
see this thread....Original Thread
69 posted on 08/19/2005 3:24:13 PM PDT by The SISU kid (Politicians are like Slinkies. Good for nothing. But you smile when you push them down the stairs)
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To: Map Kernow

" Passed a spanking new mall yesterday on the I-105 (which Southern Californians call the "Barrio-bahn") called "Plaza Mexico." Passed a lot of billboards in Spanish too---no English ("ABOGADOS! Lastimado? Llame en seguida!!" etc.) "

Los americanos están locos !


70 posted on 08/19/2005 3:30:32 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
The other thread got locked (no new posts) after a bunch of trolls showed up and talked trash about shooting people.

All those posts apparently got pulled and the last mod post on the thread states:

Knock off the revolution talk

Y'hear that, Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Mason...? No more of this seditious "it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security"---y'all won't be around here at "Free Republic" long if you keep up such talk.

71 posted on 08/19/2005 3:45:08 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: radar101

Outrageous~

Illegals should be given nothing but THE BOOT!


72 posted on 08/19/2005 3:46:43 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: jcparks
Bush's ranch is protected by US, the taxpayers, via his personal SS. Do you really think this could happen to his property?

Then how do you explain the anti-war protestors being so close to it.

73 posted on 08/19/2005 3:48:57 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: radar101

This is so wrong. If laws broken file criminal charges but don't reward and encourage them.


74 posted on 08/19/2005 4:04:05 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: radar101

Are we "legal" citizens no longer able to even protect our property?

I know we can't protect it from our government at this point, but now we cannot prevent someone from coming on our land?

I have no words for what is happening in this country today.


75 posted on 08/19/2005 4:15:17 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: radar101

Illegal immigration is going to destroy the Republican Party if it doesn't get serious about the border ASAP. time is running out.


76 posted on 08/19/2005 4:16:46 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Americanexpat
If it were my home they would get ashes

Don't forget to give the land itself a healthy dose of Dioxin.

77 posted on 08/19/2005 4:17:58 PM PDT by montag813
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To: T.Smith
Sure it does...

Now the illegals have a safe stop over after they "Get across".

Brilliant it would seem at present when we have all the citizen patrols stopping the left's future voting base from entering the country...

78 posted on 08/19/2005 4:21:21 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again just to make sure...)
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To: radar101

What a freaking pantload this is.


79 posted on 08/19/2005 4:29:39 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: radar101
Nethercott and the rest all had a chance to have their say against the illegal aliens but instead they either settled or turned tail and ran. No sympathy for a man who won't defend himself or his property.

Mr. Sutton settled for $100,000. Mr. Nethercott and Mr. Foote did not defend themselves, so the judge issued default judgments of $850,000 against Mr. Nethercott and $500,000 against Mr. Foote.

80 posted on 08/19/2005 4:34:53 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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