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Four years after President Bush restricted the use of taxpayers' dollars for human embryonic stem cell research, the issue is as contentious as ever.

If grants, funding from government and other organizations were not involved, the research would most likely stay within ethical bounds - thus far, compliance is not mandatory. Not all stem cell research is unethical, though the lines are already blurred, there is some straight forward ethical research going on. Our President is most correct in being cautious however, I hope Frist rethinks his "popular" flip-flop position –for votes.

The researchers already have successfully turned the cells into human liver tissue. The "researchers" have successfully turned cells into far more than this article tells and it is scary!

1 posted on 08/19/2005 12:53:49 PM PDT by yoe
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FYI, neverdem

yoe, you said The "researchers" have successfully turned cells into far more than this article tells and it is scary!

What have they done with these cells that is scary? Do you have a source? I'm interested.

2 posted on 08/19/2005 12:57:04 PM PDT by GummyIII (If you have the ability, it's your responsibility." Marine Sgt. John Place, Silver Star recipient)
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PRO-LIFE/PRO-BABY PING!


3 posted on 08/19/2005 12:59:52 PM PDT by cgk (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps: Emo Phillips)
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Next thing there'll be spam showing up in e-mail for new penises grown from embryonic like stem cells that men can special order to size.


4 posted on 08/19/2005 1:00:11 PM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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Next thing there'll be spam showing up in e-mail for new penises grown from embryonic like stem cells that men can special order to size.


5 posted on 08/19/2005 1:00:25 PM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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Aside from the ethics, embryonic cells have displayed a tendency to produce cancerous tumors called teratomas.

Just God letting science know when something is a no-no.

6 posted on 08/19/2005 1:06:42 PM PDT by cgk (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps: Emo Phillips)
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But..but... what will they do with the leftover bio-mass collected at the abortion clinics?

Soylent Green?


7 posted on 08/19/2005 1:07:15 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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The researchers already have successfully turned the cells into human liver tissue. The "researchers" have successfully turned cells into far more than this article tells and it is scary!

What else, and why scary?

I'm thinking that this sounds like a pretty promising direction for Type I diabetics -- perhaps there's a way to produce islet cells for the pancreas that don't trigger the automimmune response that causes the disorder.

8 posted on 08/19/2005 1:10:54 PM PDT by r9etb
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"Until now, experts have struggled to find a supply of cells in sufficient numbers that does not offend previous critics of stem cell research," UTMB said in a statement.

Yes, there are no moral absolutes, only offended people.

10 posted on 08/19/2005 1:21:55 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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Production of stem cells with embryonic characteristics from human umbilical cord blood.

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.

11 posted on 08/19/2005 1:22:11 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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This article misses the point.

The abortion industry is just that -- an industry. As such, it seeks to maximize profits.

Like any other industry, it seeks to sell its waste products for profit.

THAT, I argue, is one big reason that many folks argue for embryonic stem-cell research -- it allows embryos to be sold for profit.

12 posted on 08/19/2005 1:26:31 PM PDT by Michael Bluth
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This should be an acceptable alternative, but lawsuits will probably kill off the industry before it gets going. We'll be lucky to get aspirin 20 years from now, not to mention factory-grown replacement organs.


14 posted on 08/19/2005 1:35:29 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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‘Embryonic-Like’ Cell Discovery Could Affect Ethics Debate

You notice it doesn't say "End Debate". That's because there the organization, Planned Parenthood, is still functioning to promote abortion.

15 posted on 08/19/2005 1:42:47 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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They don't get it:
THE LEFT DOESN'T WANT
NON-EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS!

20 posted on 08/19/2005 4:07:31 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

22 posted on 08/19/2005 5:54:27 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I don't want any free Mumia. It's stringy and tough to digest.)
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The ability to regenerate liver tissue is indeed exciting, albeit less important that regenerating other tissue since the liver and skin are the only organs capable of self-regeneration.

Having said all of that, I don't feel my life is worth so much that it merits the sacrifice of another life. Honestly, I question the credibility of anyone who does think that highly of themselves - considering that another life, with great potential, was snuffed out for their benefit. That sounds harsh, no doubt, unless one considers all the lives involved, not just that of the older, bigger person.

24 posted on 08/19/2005 9:58:25 PM PDT by Lexinom
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