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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

Profile of Natalee Holloway

Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.

Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.

Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community

Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.


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To: TexKat

I'm inclined to disagree with the implication of these posts which seems to be that the bones are old and dry.....here is why....

this set of bones consists of the radius, ulna, carpals, metacarpals, and the finger digits, complets. If a dog or other animal dug it up, it is likely that they would be dry. The group of bones has survived the digging up as well as the beating of the trip to the dogs owner in its mouth. The ligaments between every bone here would also have been dry and therfore broken apart easily......yet this set of bones is intact.

Red clay or not, I am near-certain these bones are fresh....perhaps recently buried, but still very fresh.


581 posted on 08/20/2005 7:31:31 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: stopem

Green is from Canada? Another major GROAN from this girl!!


582 posted on 08/20/2005 7:35:33 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; Canadian Outrage; Rushmore Rocks
From Riehl World View:

Aruba Finds Dutch Influence Queer

Well, sort of, I guess. It seems some Arubians were rather intolerant when it came to a married lesbian couple from the Netherlands.

Reports suggest a significant portion of Aruba is somewhat conservative in nature. I wonder how they feel about the generally permissive attitudes which seem to dominate a segment of their nightlife as typified by clubs like Carlos and Charlies.

If I understand much of what I have read, there is a significant number of Arubians who have no love for that sort of nightlife and all of the trouble it brings.

Those attitudes stand in stark contrast with the many pictures of some of that nightlife many have already seen. Apparently, as exemplified in the picture top right - some people think C and C actually sucks.

New York City - AP World News.

ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- When two women tried to register as a married couple in Aruba last year, people on this Dutch island threw rocks at them, slashed their car tires and protested against gay unions outside Parliament.

The hostility eventually led Charlene and Esther Oduber-Lamers to flee the Caribbean territory, which refused to recognize their marriage even though the couple legally wed in the Netherlands four years ago.

"If we accept gay marriage, would we next have to accept Holland's marijuana bars and euthanasia?" government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg said. "They have their culture, we have ours."

583 posted on 08/20/2005 7:36:46 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Do you think that if this were Natalee's bone and she had been buried in red clay, that her bones could appear like this? I guess, I mean, they'd absorb the red from the clay, then, quickly?
Oh, I hope I am making sense, I am tired!
I am just wondering if it is possible that she could have been taken off island and buried in red clay in Venezuela in a shallow grave and this fellow's dog found this bone. If the grave were near a shore, during that hurricane that went through, the seas would have risen some and certainly could have dislodged the body.


584 posted on 08/20/2005 7:39:46 PM PDT by phoebe
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To: TexKat

"government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg said. "They have their culture, we have ours."

I'll bet trapenberg is a fag himself, LOL.

Whats that prime-ministers name again? Oduber, ain't it?


585 posted on 08/20/2005 7:41:38 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: theophilusscribe

Great, Thanks for finding it, there's another one by the same author.

Our little energizer mommy,:) God bless her!


586 posted on 08/20/2005 7:45:50 PM PDT by stopem
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To: phoebe

a drop-sized piece of the bone marrow will tell for sure whether these bones are red herrings or not. But then, Hugo CChavez is not exactly a fan of America, so we can be assured of his bureaucracy working at a snails pace, sadly.


587 posted on 08/20/2005 7:47:43 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: presently no screen name

Thank you PNSN. I don't deserve all that. It just comes naturally because of God I guess.


588 posted on 08/20/2005 7:59:40 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Yes, I am afraid you are right. :o(


589 posted on 08/20/2005 8:04:50 PM PDT by phoebe
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Yes, you just echoed my friends.


590 posted on 08/20/2005 8:14:09 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Mark spot!!


591 posted on 08/20/2005 8:18:24 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Whats that prime-ministers name again? Oduber, ain't it?

You've got it Vn_survivor_67-68.

592 posted on 08/20/2005 8:27:41 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: phoebe

http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/general/sarah_bollinger.html

according to this much of Aruba has red clay, thus the red star in their flag..I would also suspect volcanic rock and some leftovers from historical gold mining....


593 posted on 08/20/2005 9:11:41 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: TexKat

I'm having trouble getting a perspective on the length of those bones - like, for instance, is that a regular-sized newspaper they are laying on? If so, looks like from a much lankier person than Nat. I'm 5'8" and pretty sure my forearm could not span a paper like that.


594 posted on 08/20/2005 9:22:05 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: GnuHere

I looked at it in that way also......notice the very large thumb knuckle.....perhaps arthritis of traumatic disfigurement?


595 posted on 08/20/2005 9:26:40 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

typo correction, sorry

perhaps arthritis *OR* traumatic disfigurement?



596 posted on 08/20/2005 9:29:17 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: TexKat
Good evening, TK. I am one to believe that if you put Julie Banderas and Arlene in a locked room together they would probably claw each other's eyes out.

TAW

597 posted on 08/20/2005 9:33:55 PM PDT by Malichi (!)
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To: phoebe

I live in 'fly over' country. Appalachia. It is not only 'what will eventually happen to these countries'. It is here at home also.

Our own street is not the same as when we purchased in 1987.

Down the street, within a mile, are meth, shootings, drug deals, prostitution, robberies, a corrupt city hall, and the unsolved murder of 4 kids on their prom night this past May.

The city has but 50,000 people.

Wonder what will happen with this country also at the current rate of decline?


598 posted on 08/20/2005 9:57:09 PM PDT by ZOTnot ('We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good'--Hillary, 6/28/2004.)
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To: justche


599 posted on 08/20/2005 10:00:37 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: TexKat
Oduber said he also urged Holloway Twitty, who has been critical of the investigation into her daughter's disappearance, to be careful about her remarks regarding the Dutch Caribbean island's judicial system.

What an @sshole! Oduber needs to have his wagging finger slapped. He needs to clean up his corrupt house of horrors and certainly not lecture to Beth Holloway, who has legitimate complaints of this pathetically botched investigation. How dare he make those comments after talking to Beth? ARRRRRRGH!
600 posted on 08/20/2005 10:01:05 PM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
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