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Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat
Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.
Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.
Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community
Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.
Fox News reporting remains found but not indentified yet as LaToya Figueroa. Police have reason to believe it is her.
The govt. there is worried that this case will hurt tourism in such a way, that more arubans and surinamese will be going to Holland. They're being flooded by it is. Crime among the youths of these people is horrendous.
i've been there as well...sheesh!
The US & Canada are nothing compared to holland.
But I still liked it, probably because I could always go home....
Imagine if 50% of the US population were from San Fran or The Village, and the remainder of the population is divided between friendly, decent, harmless Euro-Hobbits and angry muslim youth.
Oh, and it's colder and wetter and too expensive.
Thats Holland 101 for Americans.
Not actually a bad place, but The Netherlands are a fine example of what would happen if the left were given free reign over a country for 50 years.
Oddly, most of the kids I met were fairly sensible, but they were college students who smiled at their impending doom. A fairly nihilistic lot, but can you blame the 20 year old Dutch youth for being a tad jaded and cynical at his prospects and the future of his country?
It was some kind of German paper, justche.
stopem, do you have a link or source for the article you posted? Thanks!
I read it in SM http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1525
Posted by: TigerGirl722 | Aug 17, 2005 11:19:40 PM
It is a real long article. I have no idea were they got the article it was supposedly in a German newspaper originally, than someone else posted the article and translated it from German to english.
Can't find that post now.
And supposedly it was also posted on ReihlWorld.
Sorry that's the best I can do as to the link, hope it helped. A friend of mine emailed the link to me to read.
I think or what I can gather is that someone is posting their own theory and adding to the article as to all the reasons they think Natalee was kidnapped, and Greta's reason for covering the case.
Thanks so much, stopem!!
justche, pinging to stopem's post.
So lets say they dont find a body by Sep 4th.
If they let Joran go, what then happens with this story?
Does the media continue to report it.
D). SPREAD this information and the links to all your friends and ASK them to HELP too.
E). People are needed to EMAIL and WRITE to the following, asking for their help and showing support for Natalee's family. They need:
the media coverage so that this case will not fade away, never be solved, and Natalee never be found. There are many other missing people, but this missing girl has some unusual circumstances which everyone knows. Maybe we can also help other families find their missing.
the investigators to interrogate ALL the people possibly involved in this case (except maybe the 2 security guards), starting with:
the father; the Kalpoes; Lorenzo van Rijn and all the people that gave him an alibi; all the employees working that night at CnC's; the DJ, Croes; all the employees of the casino(s) where Natalee went to; former Chief van der Straaten; the headmaster of the International School; etc.
to be given the equipment and manpower they need for the landfill, and other places, to be totally and completely searched. for any witnesses to know they will not be deported, or disappear, or worse. People with information need to know they will be safe to come forward and tell what they know, without repercussions.
to let those involved, including the Aruban and Netherland authorities, know that the people in the world DO STILL care about this case - and are closely watching !
Copy and Paste the following email addresses to your emails
CONTACT THE MEDIA:
| Dan Abrams - abramsreport@msnbc.com Geraldo Rivera - atlarge@foxnews.com Catherine Crier - crierlive@courttv.com Fox News Live - Feedback@foxnews.com John Gibson - myword@foxnews.com Sean Hannity - hannity@foxnews.com Joe Scarborough - joe@msnbc.com Greta van Susteren - ontherecord@foxnews.com Bill O'Reilly - oreilly@foxnews.com Alan Colmes - Colmes@foxnews.com Rita Cosby - Rita@msnbc.com Dayside@foxnews.com Friends@foxnews.com Larry King - http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?12 Nancy Grace - http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5c.html?24 CONTACT THE NETHERLANDS: The Ministery of Interior and the Antillis, the Haag, Netherlands Minister Remkes or Minister Pectold info@minbzk.nl The Department of Justice, the Haag, Netherlands Minister of Justice voorlichting@minjus.nl |
AND WRITE TO: Dutch Ambassador to the United States The Royal Netherlands Embassy 4200 Linnean Avenue, Northwest Washington, D. C. 20008 CONTACT CONGRESS (U.S.A) (please add Alabama and Mississippi to your state) Ala. Senator Sessions: http://sessions.senate.gov/email/contact.cfm Ala. Senator Shelby: http://shelby.senate.gov/resources/contact.htm Ala. Rep. Spenser Bachus: http://www.house.gov/writerep/ Ms. Senator Trent Lott: http://lott.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Email Ms. Senator Thad Cochran: http://cochran.senate.gov/contact.htm Ms. Rep Charles W. Chip: http://www.house.gov/htbin/wrep_findrep Contact your House of Representatives: http://www.house.gov/writerep/ Contact your Senator: http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ These go to a Write Your Representative page Select your location from list Enter your ZIP code Select Contact and it goes to a page where you fill out information on you. then goes to the page where you write the email |
P. S. This is not meant to insult (anyone) or imply anything bad about the Aruban people themselves. The natives have been very kind and the family thanks them.
Rest in peace, LaToyia
mom2three
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1569
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 2:14 am
Van Zandt entered the internet café today and politely asked Deepak if it would be alright for them to talk. Deepak agreed and so the interview began.
Van Zandt said that he told Deepak that he wanted to talk to him as he would talk to his own son. He asked him if he knew that Joran had told the police that he (Deepak) was the person who raped and killed Natalee. Deepak acknowledged that he had heard that. Van Zandt asked him if he had had a chance to discuss their stories while they were in jail together. Deepak indicated that they had not, because they police had kept them separated.
Van Zandt asked Deepak if he thought that this case was going to go away, even if Joran is released from jail. Deepak said that it would never go away because Beth (he refers to her as Beth) would never leave the island until she found Natalee.
At this point, Van Zandt asked Deepak if he felt like his life was on hold. Deepak nodded and said that he had planned to attend college in Florida, but now he knows that is not possible. Instead, he said that he may go to Canada, but that he just did not know because this case is hanging over him.
Then, Van Zandt asked Deepak if he knew what a plea bargain was and Deepak acknowledged that he did. Actually, he told V.Z that it is when 2 people get together and turn state’s evidence and testify against someone else. V.Z. agreed with him and asked him if this would be a possibility. Deepak told him that in Aruba, they do not have the plea bargain option.
Van Zandt told Deepak that this was going to hang over him the rest of his life. He asked him how he felt about that and Deepak did not answer. From there, he brought up the subject of polygraphs. Deepak told him that they were not admissible in Aruba. V.Z. told him that, at least, he could clear up his public image if he were to take one and pass it. Then V.Z. asked him if that would be a possibility, if it were administered by a professional. (I believe he even mentioned the FBI.) Deepak said that he would be willing to take one, if his attorney will allow it.
I was left with the impression that he is going to discuss it with his attorney.
Sounds like you have your own resort! Your right, USA has it all.
re the alleged german article:
This post was the first mention of it that I personally saw......thursday night.
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Author: Dayo (---.bchsia.telus.net)
Date: 08-18-05 09:12
http://aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=13&i=8179&t=8179
This is breaking in Europe.
Washington,DC USA
The intl. news section, where they talked about George Twitty. from Mountain Brook, Alabama ,who's stepdaughter had been disappeared on the Caribbean Island of Aruba in the beginning of June.
Regarding the extensive media coverage, they brought up that one of the main reporters for Fox News Network Greta van Susteren has a very special connection to the case.
Her husband, John P. Coale, and George Twitty are both investors in a large real estate development in Richmond, VA. Each of them hold 25% of the development. The other 50% is held by a group of 2 Germans and a Dutch investor, who resides in the self-governing entity of Aruba.
1,930 posted on 08/18/2005 8:45:02 PM EDT by theophilusscribe
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following the link within it leads to another unsourced writing....
ollow the money. The Germans have.
Author: Dayo (---.bchsia.telus.net)
Date: 08-18-05 09:12
This is breaking in Europe.
Here is the article in German:
"Washington,DC USA
In der Suche nach der vermissten jungen Frau auf Aruba, sind neue Fakten zu Tage gekommen. Die junge Frau war Anfang Juni spurlus verschwunden, nur Stunden
bevor sie in die USA zurueck kehren sollte.
In den Vereinigten Staaten haben sich viele uber die uberaus weite Berichterstattung im Fernesehn erregt. Viele Amerikaner sind der Auffassung, daB dies nicht richtig ist, da so viele Menschen taglich vermisst werden. Wie es sich nun herausstellt, ist der Ehemann einer der Journalsiten in einer Geschaftsbeziehung mit dem Stiefvater der verschwundenen Amerikanerin.
Der Ehemann der fur Fox News Network arbeitenden Greta van Susteren. John P.
Coale ist einer der Hauptinvestoren in einer
Immobilien Anlage. Er halt 25%, dieselbe Beteiligung die George Twitty, Stiefvater der verschwunden jungen Frau halt.
Die weiteren Anleger sind sind zwei
Deutsche und ein Niederlander, der in der Aruba lebt. Aruba ist eine autonome Region der Niederlande."
The intl. news section, where they talked about George Twitty. from Mountain Brook, Alabama ,who's stepdaughter had been disappeared on the Caribbean Island of Aruba in the beginning of June.
Regarding the extensive media coverage, they
brought up that one of the main reporters for Fox News Network Greta van Susteren has a very special connection to the case.
Her husband, John P. Coale, and George Twitty are both investors in a large real estate development in Richmond, VA. Each of them hold 25% of the development. The other 50% is held by a group of 2 Germans and a Dutch investor, who resides in the self-governing entity of Aruba.
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it appears to be a deadend, originating at the "aruba.com" message board! As of now, the original poster has NOT responded with a source, despite many requests for it in the messages that follow the first post......It has now been 36+ hours since this post.....not a peep on TV about it......would seem to indicate that this is not even worth refuting, and I would think that Greta's competitors would be all over this if there were anything to it......it may also be of interest to know that Drudge was (thursday evening) emailed this post on aruba.com and asked if there might be any truth in it.....nothing has appeared on Drudge about it.
The longer this allegation goes without intensifying the more likely is is just desperate aruban "sushi" that tries to slander Greta (the biggest thorn in their side) and jug.
One last thing.....note that the poster claims that "this is breaking in Europe"......but immediately following is "Washington, DC, USA"!
I just looked at 1995 again very carefully on the old thread......I believe that it is some message board posters op-ed in response to and for the embellishment of the unsourced thing on aruba.com.....I don't think that it (1995) was ever in a real "publication" such as a magazine or newspaper.
TA,
The words from this person were probably spoken after the contents of their third crack pipe(bowl) had been inhaled.
The dutch are just a bunch of hedonistic, unmoral,and dillusional (be someumpins). THe VDS's are a prime example of their kind, and probably serve as a role model for all dutch to emulate.
They are just jealous of America, and with their lifstyle maybe they will all overdose soon.
Looking through the eyes of time,
NSNR-TBOTE
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/aruba_paper_mal.html#comments
Aruba Paper Calls Natalee Holloway an Indecent Young Woman
Aruba daily publication A.M. Digital maligned Natalee Holloway and her Mother Beth Twitty in Friday's issue and suggested the island needs to move on from the case in an extended piece with Psychologist Tony Green.
Frankly,we are tired of the Natalee Holloway story. It is as if it is the only important thing in life in this country.
The psychologist went on to criticize Natalee herself, suggesting she was at fault in her own disappearance and possible murder and that Mother Beth Twitty cannot accept that Natalee was not a "decent" girl.
She gives the impression that a corrupt Aruba caused this to happen. The psychologist emphasized that this cannot be further than the truth. He also emphasized that if the young lady was as decent and correct as her parents paint her to be, today we would not be searching for her.
Decent and correct young ladies do not enter a car with people that they have just met in a strange country that they are visiting for the first time and certainly not in the wee hours of the morning and without knowing where they are going.
Green remarks that he does not know any 18 year old, neither any 28 year old Aruba girl that would accept a ride from a stranger at midnight in Aruba,not to even speak of in a strange country.
Green goes on to denounce both the chaperones on the trip for not being responsible, and suggests that American journalist Nancy Grace is ignorant and Aruba should not allow in any additional search teams - pronouncing the entire effort a "joke," before suggesting the incident is actually good promotion for the island.
Beth Twitty must pack her bags and go home and let Aruba continue its job without her interference, or that of the US or that of the countless search teams that wish to go on digging and running around with barking dogs.
The immense fortune that this joke is costing Aruba is not justifiable in view of all the ridiculous propaganda that is being spread of Aruba by the US press. In spite of the negative propaganda that we are receiving, it still is good promotion for Aruba and will not affect us on the long run.
This post is also available at Blogger News Network.
“I can’t say why, but we need his statement,” Comenencia said. “The problem is we don’t know who he is.”
Well using logic if I wanted to find this person who "often went jogging there late at night" I would station a few officers in the area late at night and patrol the area looking for joggers, before I went public possibly endangering him or scaring him off like the gardener..then again since they won't say how long they have been looking for them maybe they already did this? (I doubt it I think his story backs up the gardeners which took them three weeks to get).....of course I would have done this three months ago, he could be dead or lame by now....this could be a ruse for ALE to see if the Kalpoes or PVDS or someone else goes looking for him...nah I doubt ALE would do that they don't even ask follow up questions on confessions......
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