Ollie ping!
(second discussion on retitled "Enabling Danger" article posted previously.
Posted on 08/19/2005 6:50:01 AM PDT by RepublicNewbie
The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States -- otherwise known as the Sept. 11 Commission -- was supposed to suggest changes in law and policy to help protect us from terror attacks. To make such recommendations, the commission needed to discern what happened. Regrettably, the commission's public hearings devolved into a political circus instead of a fact-finding exercise. Instead of solving the numerous riddles of how 19 terrorists murdered nearly 3,000 Americans, apologists for the Clinton administration used the hearings to deflect blame -- and point to the culpability of the Bush administration.
(Excerpt) Read more at postchronicle.com ...
It is hard to believe that the Rats would cover up something to help the Clintoon Administration.
I was waiting to hear Ollie's take on all this, thanks for posting. As far as common sense goes, I have a saying -
"Common sense isn't"
The Commission composed of those who are RESPONSIBLE for the lapse, yeah, THEY'LL dig deep. What a sham.
If there is a comforting thought about this it is the fact that at least somewhere in the good ol USA, people still have unmatched ingenuity and that our intelligence is not a failure. At least one group has the "Imagination" to have connected the dots. The human race is rife with the 'not invented here' syndrome and nowhere is that ego more evident than in government. But hey, they didn't listen to Galileo for a hundred years..I guess this is some progress.
JAMIE GORELICK
......the Clinton Administration will do ANYTHING to cover up ANYTHING!
They went along with no official transcripts. I'd like to know why.
Hmmmm . . . .
common sense says ABSOLUTLY!
They simply used staffers to self censor so the political elites (all) on the commission had plausable deniability.
Yup, that's about it, in a nutshell!
exactly. he knew what he was looking for and that's why he destroyed some of it.
She must be investigated!!!!!!!!
Forensic Intelligence International, LLC the Kauth house, 318 Cooper Avenue, Hancock, Michigan 49930; 906-370-9993 706-294-9993 (mobile), 603-452-8208 (fax & voice mail), sdresch@forensic-intelligence.org
Monday, April 5, 2004 Urgent & Confidential Thomas H. Kean, Chairman
Lee H. Hamilton, Vice Chairman
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
301 7th Street, SW
Room 5125
Washington, DC 20407
Re: Pre-September 2001 FBI and Dept. of Justice Intelligence on Terrorism (R. Yousef)
Dear Chairman Kean and Vice Chairman Hamilton:
Our monitoring of the Commission’s hearings indicates that significant intelligence concerning the terrorist threat to the United States obtained between 1996 and early 2001 by various components of the U.S. Department of Justice has not been provided to the Commission.
This intelligence was provided to agents of the New York office of the FBI and senior prosecutors with the offices of the U.S. Attorneys for the Southern and Eastern Districts of New York by an informant, Gregory Scarpa, Jr., who developed a close personal relationship with Ramzi Ahmed Yousef while Yousef and Scarpa were incarcerated at the Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) in New York in 1996 and 1997, with supplemental information provided in 2000 by Scarpa to an official of the U.S. Bureau of Prisons after he was transferred to the Administrative Maximum Security (ADMAX) Penitentiary in Florence Colorado, to which Yousef had already been transferred and where both currently remain. In early 2001 another inmate of Florence ADMAX attempted to transmit much of the information developed by Scarpa to the director of the FBI, the President of the United States and the Attorney General.1
We first became aware of this intelligence when, for purposes entirely unrelated to terrorism, we met with Scarpa at Florence ADMAX in March 2003. In the course of these meetings Scarpa provided to us his contemporaneous (1996-97) handwritten notes of his conversations with Yousef and his terrorist codefendants2 and copies of FBI Forms 302 (informant reports) recounting the information which he had provided to agents of the FBI.3
1 We cannot, of course, confirm that these mailings, made by Gerard Van Hoorelbeke, in fact left the prison or reached their intended recipients. Van Hoorelbeke remains incarcerated at Florence ADMAX (Reg. No. 10376-029).
2 Scarpa reported conversations with Yousef and with Yousef’s codefendants, Wali Khan Amin Shah, Abdul Hakim Murad and Eyad Ismoil. Many of these conversations referenced a person identified by the terrorists as “Bojinga,” whom we believe to be Osama Bin Laden.
3 During his incarceration at the MCC, Scarpa was regularly debriefed by an agent of the FBI who, using the alias “Susan Schwartz,” posed as a paralegal employed by Scarpa’s attorney, Larry J. Silverman. In addition to these reports, Scarpa, utilizing a mini-camera provided by the warden of the MCC, provided the FBI with photographs of documents (“kites”) which Yousef shared with him. Also, with the assistance of Scarpa (acting on behalf of the FBI) Yousef was able to make telephone calls, monitored by the FBI, to active (unincarcerated) members of his terrorist networks via a “patch-through” phone accessed from MCC. FI2
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The intelligence provided by Scarpa included specific threats to U.S. airlines, the identification of countries (e.g., England) through which terrorists were entering the United States and testing U.S. security procedures, instructions for smuggling explosive chemicals and detonators (including hiding these in the heels of shoes), and formulas for explosives and for the production of phosgene and mustard gases. Yousef revealed to Scarpa his strong interest in obtaining blank U.S. passports which “his people would only use for one trip to board the planes to be hijacked.” Further intelligence laid out a plan to videotape the killings of hijacking victims, with distribution of these tapes to the media.4
One very serious missed opportunity to disrupt a terrorist network here in the United States prior to September 11, 2001, involved Yousef’s agreement to meeting in New York between Scarpa’s associates (who would have been disguised FBI agents) and four active (unincarcerated) terrorists. This meeting never took place because the cognizant FBI agents and assistant U.S. attorneys refused to agree to Yousef’s demand that $3,000 be provided to the terrorists.
It should be noted that Scarpa provided this assistance to the FBI at considerable risk not only to himself but also to members of his family, whose address he was compelled to provide to Yousef to enhance his credibility.
We have identified the following officials as having been directly involved with Scarpa in his role as an informant, as summarized in the attached “Scarpa-Yousef Intelligence Timeline”:5
New York Office of the FBI
. Susan Schwartz (alias)
. Pat White
. James Kallstrom
U.S. Attorneys’ Offices
. AUSA Michael Garcia (EDNY)
. AUSA Patrick Fitzgerald (EDNY)
. AUSA Valerie Caproni (EDNY)
. U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White (SDNY)
Metropolitan Correctional Center (New York)
. Warden R.M. Reish
Administrative Maximum Secuity Penitentiary, Florence, Colorado
. Mr. Manly (SIS)
4 Scarpa’s intelligence anticipates “shoe bomber” Richard Reed, the authorization for the 9/11 attacks given by Yousef's uncle, Kahlid Shaikh Mohammed, Mohammed Atta’s and Al Qaeda’s English connections, the single-use passports employed to board the airplanes hijacked on 9/11, and the videotaped death in Pakistan of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.
5 The office of the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York was initially informed of Scarpa’s contacts with Yousef at the MCC and his willingness to serve as an informant by his attorney, Larry J. Silverman (46 Trinity Place, New York 10006; 212-425-1616), who remained informed of Scarpa’s activities on behalf of the government.
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Although the information provided by Scarpa appears to have been fully documented, especially in Forms 302 prepared by the New York office of the FBI, we do not know if this information was disseminated to other agencies with responsibility for the prevention of terrorist attacks on the United States.
We understand that AUSA Patrick Fitzgerald (EDNY), in a later (sealed) court filing, attested to the credibility, accuracy and value of the terrorism intelligence provided by Scarpa. However, at the time of Scarpa’s sentencing AUSA Valerie Caproni denigrated Scarpa’s credibility as an informant. Apparently, Scarpa’s credibility was perceived to pose a threat in the context of serious questions which had been raised concerning the informant relationship of Scarpa’s father, Gregory Scarpa, Sr., with FBI Supervisory Special Agent R. Lindley DeVecchio, the revelation of which might place in jeopardy a number of convictions secured by the office of the U.S. Attorney (EDNY). This latter matter, entirely unrelated to terrorism, remains a subject of continuing, independent investigation.
We strongly advise that the Commission fully examine the terrorism intelligence secured by the government through the informant services of Gregory Scarpa, Jr., and assess the extent to which it was appropriately utilized to reduce the terrorist threat to the United States.
Respectfully submitted,
Angela Clemente
Stephen P. Dresch, Ph.D.
Santrea_143.2@juno.com 706-294-9993
Principal witness: Gregory Scarpa, Jr. Reg. No. 10099-050 ADX Florence
P.O. Box 8500
5880 State Highway 67 South
Florence, Colorado 81226
719-784-9464
Attachment: Scarpa-Yousef Intelligence Timeline
End. The timeline is seven pages long, with info related to Flight 800, Atlanta, other matters, including one situation where an opportunity to develop leads related to four terrorists, at-large in New York, failed to develop.
Info can be seen at:
http://www.forensic-intelligence.org/fen/index.htm
Once at the above link, click on lower left link.
http://www.forensic-intelligence.org/spd.htm
And found this article related to the 911 commission:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32387
Speaking of politics, it is probably no coincidence that one of the five Democrats on the high level 9-11 Commission is Jamie Gorelick. As Clinton's deputy attorney general in 1996, she seems to have been the one charged with derailing the FBI and scuttling any serious investigation into Flight 800's demise.
A Pulitzer awaits the first reporter who pursues this story to its natural conclusion, and we will do all that we can to help.
We won't hold our breath for anyone to pursue this story, will we? Sadly.
Yep. She is the inside bag-girl for the Xlinton's house-cleaning service. Even more blatant than Sandy Berger, if that's possible.
Wonder if and when she is finally made the subject of an investigation and possible Grand Jury indictment...if...before she can turn State's Evidence... she will suddenly have a mysterious suicide ala Vince Foster, or a plane crash ala Ron Brown...
Yes, indeed.
It is way past time for a full-blown investigative biography... or a posse of them... tracing all of Jamie Gorelick's perfidities and criminal misdeeds.
I suspect that we are only seeing the tips of the icebergs.
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