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Who's testing positive for steroids now...(3 More MLB Positives 2 in AL, One in NL for 'The Rocket?
The Reds Reporter ^ | 8/18/05

Posted on 08/18/2005 6:20:03 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

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To: SomeCallMeTim

Schmidt's stats, as I recall, show a relatively steady career in terms of home runs and batting average. I suspect the guys who have that big spike in numbers for a couple of years, then devolve into injury plagued years after that. If Schmidt did the juice, he was consistent with it over a 15 year period. Seems highly unlikely.


41 posted on 08/18/2005 6:53:32 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: konaice
Disk disease or back problems are treated with steroids to reduce the inflammation to the spinal cord.
42 posted on 08/18/2005 6:54:26 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: thoughtomator

"It's a topsy turvy world when the cleanest major sport in the USA is football"

You're not naive enough to believe that are you? Every defensive player and most on offense in college and the NFL have been juicing for many years. NFL testing is a farce


43 posted on 08/18/2005 6:54:46 PM PDT by Figment
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Well, maybe they weren't 'rampant' whe Mike played, but they were definitely "around". They have been since the 50's at least. Ahnold, the Terminator, was using them heavily in the 60's.

Well, steroids have been "around" since the 1940's when testosterone was used on Nazi soldiers. The invention of Dianabol came soon after that.

But steroids infiltrated different sports at different times. Bodybuilders first in the 1950's, then the NFL and track in the 1970's, then everyone else in the 1980's. Baseball lagged far behind in its understanding not just of illegal steroids but general strength and conditioning principles to begin with. So I really doubt that anybody's records up through the mid-1980's are suspect.

BTW, I love your screen name! A Grail??!!

44 posted on 08/18/2005 6:56:13 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen

All avaliable evidence indicates that the use of amphetamines ("greenies") has been rampant in baseball from the 1960s to today.

We now return you to rosy-eyed nostalgia for the "good 'ol days."


45 posted on 08/18/2005 6:56:41 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Football records hold much less signifigance than Football records do.

I think this stems from the fact that Baseball was EASILY the most popular sport out there ESPECIALLY in the '80s but even up until the '94 strike.

Sure the foundation was eroded by then, but it was still arguably more followed that Football was....


46 posted on 08/18/2005 6:56:54 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: Strategerist

Football records hold much less signifigance than Baseball records do.

I think this stems from the fact that Baseball was EASILY the most popular sport out there ESPECIALLY in the '80s but even up until the '94 strike.

Sure the foundation was eroded by then, but it was still arguably more followed that Football was....


47 posted on 08/18/2005 6:57:08 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: vetvetdoug
Disk disease or back problems are treated with steroids to reduce the inflammation to the spinal cord.

First I've ever heard that Steroids are anti-inflamatory, but I guess its possible.

But that would be Prescription, No? Can MLB interfere with doctor patient relationship? Would not that be practicing medicine without a license?

48 posted on 08/18/2005 6:58:43 PM PDT by konaice
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

Well... I choose to believe you're correct.

Frankly, I haven't cared much about baseball since 'The Strike' took my beloved Astros out of first place.

I think they should just STOP playing baseball as soon as the NFL season starts! :-)


49 posted on 08/18/2005 6:59:27 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: Strategerist
All avaliable evidence indicates that the use of amphetamines ("greenies") has been rampant in baseball from the 1960s to today.

For the circus the Romans used to give performance-enhancing substances to the combatants and the animals. People were being caught doping in swimming contests in late-1800s Amsterdam, and the Olympics were rife with drugs at least since the 1950s. Whenever there is great reward at stake there will be doping.

Immigration, Then and Now.

50 posted on 08/18/2005 7:00:37 PM PDT by untenured (http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com)
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To: MikeinIraq
Football records hold much less signifigance than Football records do.

Come Again?

51 posted on 08/18/2005 7:01:07 PM PDT by konaice
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To: konaice
But that would be Prescription, No? Can MLB interfere with doctor patient relationship? Would not that be practicing medicine without a license?

Most likely a prescription yes. The MLB cannot interfere, but that may be the basis for the appeal (if true). the MLB is so corrupt I am sure Bud Selig thinks he is a doctor....
52 posted on 08/18/2005 7:01:38 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: Zack Nguyen

POW! POW! POW!

I'm a busy man.... but, thanks!


53 posted on 08/18/2005 7:02:01 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: konaice

look at post 47, I caught it and redid it....


54 posted on 08/18/2005 7:02:14 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: MikeinIraq

"If he was having back issues, maybe he thought that using the roids would make him feel better...."


The use of roids in treating injuries is allowed in any of the American professional sports.That's one thing that makes the NFL roid policy such a farce, everyone is using a legal roid for some injury or other. Do you think Joe Montana recovered from the removal of TWO herniated disks in 6 weeks by working hard?


55 posted on 08/18/2005 7:02:29 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Figment

acutally no. I think those herniated disks ended up shortening his career.

If a doctor prescribes them for a legit injury, that ISN'T a problem, as that is completely and totally LEGAL.


56 posted on 08/18/2005 7:03:31 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: SomeCallMeTim

What little interest I had for it was finally squelched when the Phils fired Larry Bowa. The inmates control the asylum these days.
And by the way Pat Burrell, how did that managerial change work out in the standings this year? Oh, you're all underachieving losers again?


57 posted on 08/18/2005 7:04:10 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
Oh, you're all underachieving losers again?

You should probably check the standings before ranting...the Phillies are tied for the Wild Card and I think they have a good chance at actually winning it...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?type=wild&br=5&year=2005&column=gamesBehind&order=false&st=2
58 posted on 08/18/2005 7:07:38 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: MikeinIraq

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?type=wild&br=5&year=2005&column=gamesBehind&order=false&st=2


59 posted on 08/18/2005 7:08:07 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: konaice

" First I've ever heard that Steroids are anti-inflamatory, but I guess its possible"


Ever hear the term NSAID? (non steroidal anti inflamatory drug) Motrin etc...


60 posted on 08/18/2005 7:11:58 PM PDT by Figment
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