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Rice: Israel must take more steps
Jerusalem Post ^ | Aug. 18, 2005 | Herb Keinon

Posted on 08/18/2005 4:21:25 PM PDT by Alouette

As Israel struggled Thursday to evacuate the Gush Katif settlements, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said it must take further steps.

"Everyone empathizes with what the Israelis are facing," she said in an interview with The New York Times. But, she added, "It cannot be Gaza only."

Rice said this is "really quite a dramatic moment in the history of the Middle East," and praised Sharon for proving himself "enormously courageous."

According to the Times, Rice said that while the withdrawal would take several weeks, Israel must take further steps soon afterward, including loosening travel restrictions in the West Bank and withdrawing from more Palestinian cities.

She also said the Palestinian Authority must disarm Hamas. "That is their obligation under the road map," she said.

Rice's comments prompted Agriculture Minister Yisrael Katz, a disengagement opponent, to call on Sharon to hold an emergency cabinet discussion on the matter.

"Rice's comments prove there is no basis to the prime minister's statement that there will not be an additional disengagement," he said.

"To my dismay, the unilateral evacuation of settlements from Gaza and northern Samaria creates a dangerous precedent which endangers the legitimacy of Israeli settlement in Judea, Samaria, the Jordan Valley, the Golan Heights and neighborhoods in east Jerusalem," Katz said.

But a senior official in the Prime Minister's Office warned against blowing Rice's words "out of proportion."

The official said that whereas some would automatically want to interpret her words as evidence that the US would now begin pressuring Israel to begin a second stage of disengagement, this was not what she said.

He said Rice was interested in seeing the implementation of the security plan put together by her envoy, Lt.-Gen. William Ward, which called for Israel to transfer control of the West Bank cities to the PA, but which Israel halted because of security considerations.

The official said Israel would transfer the cities to the PA when the security situation on the ground would make such a step possible. Furthermore, he repeated the government's well-known position that Israel would move ahead with the road map when the Palestinians fulfilled their obligations under the plan, first and foremost the dismantling of the terrorist infrastructure.

Some officials in Jerusalem have warned in recent weeks that once disengagement was complete, the US would once again begin pressuring Israel to remove the unauthorized settlement outposts in the West Bank. The US backed off of this issue in recent months, so as not to create any additional domestic problems for Sharon as he was gearing up for disengagement.

While Rice said she expected Israel to take further steps immediately, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom told the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Rai Al-Aam that Gaza would serve as a "model," and if the PA dismantled the terrorist infrastructure and "peace and quiet reign in the region, we will be able to move forward and return to the road map."

But, he said in comments published Thursday, "If Gaza turns into a base for shooting missiles at Israel and increasing Palestinian attacks, it will be impossible to move on to another step and take a new risk."

During the interview with the paper, conducted in Shalom's office on Wednesday, he said Israel was now expecting Palestinian "actions," not excuses. He said Israel was focused on the day after disengagement, and waiting to see whether the PA would rise to the occasion and – when it gains control of Gaza – dismantle the terrorist infrastructure and govern responsibly.

Shalom said PA Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's first order of business after disengagement should be to arrest Hamas activists. "Abbas should do this not to protect Israel, but to safeguard his own power," he said.

Shalom's interview with the Kuwaiti paper was one of four interviews he gave key Arabic media outlets over the last two days to signal to the Arab world that the disengagement momentum should be seized upon, and that Israel was serious about peace.

He told the Kuwaiti paper that Gaza would not become a "prison," and that negotiations with the Palestinians regarding border crossings and safe passage were ongoing.

Asked about the long-disrupted peace talks with Syria, and whether Israel would be willing to give up the settlements in the Golan Heights as it did in Gaza, Shalom said: "Every party can come to the negotiation table with the topics they want, and we have to talk about everything."

AP contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: appeasement; chamberlain; concessions; disengagement; gaza; more; rice
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To: Alouette
"Everyone empathizes with what the Israelis are facing," she [Rice] said in an interview with The New York Times.

Oh, BS.

21 posted on 08/18/2005 4:36:18 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: SJackson

Thanks for the ping I am deeply saddened by this.


23 posted on 08/18/2005 4:38:48 PM PDT by since1868 (Free -Asphalt!!)
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To: Yehuda
Is this why we helped to reelect them? So they could cut Israel in half and simlutaneously tell Bin Laden and Zarqawi that terorism pays, and to fight harder against US? WE MUST CALL THEM ON THIS NOW.

No, personally because I thought he was better than John Kerry. On the war on terror, he is. As to Israel, I'll withold judgement, though at this time I'd say he's better than Carter, worse than Clinton, and certainly not a Reagan or Nixon.

24 posted on 08/18/2005 4:39:23 PM PDT by SJackson (I went to the intifada, and all I got was a UN T-Shirt, Hugh Hewitt)
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To: SJackson

Israel should be taking land not giving it away. One man's opinion.


25 posted on 08/18/2005 4:40:01 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: sofaman

I am sure that Israel will return to the abandoned land to take care of the people that will attack them from that land.


27 posted on 08/18/2005 4:42:10 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: joesnuffy
Thanks for that report. Now I really want to vomit when I read Rice's words....

Poor, poor Israel. Now we, Israel's main ally, are abandoning them. Bush claims to read the Bible every night. Could've fooled me....

28 posted on 08/18/2005 4:42:21 PM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
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To: Yehuda
BTW, your cut Israel in half comment is significant, an issue I haven't addressed much.

Among the many additions to American foreign policy, a sovereign palestinian state, 1949 borders, is a land connection between Gaza and the West Bank.

Where the *ell did that come from?

Even the Arabs and the UN never thought of that as a realistic demand, till now.

I look forward to military action carving out a land passage from Washington to Alaska. Lousy, land grabbing Canadians.

29 posted on 08/18/2005 4:42:45 PM PDT by SJackson (I went to the intifada, and all I got was a UN T-Shirt, Hugh Hewitt)
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To: Alouette

Why doesn't Rice take a few long steps off a short pier.

Rice 08?

I don't think so.


30 posted on 08/18/2005 4:42:51 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: since1868
"Disgust" sums it up much better.

Bush is doing no less than Clinton did. Pressure the Israelis into making concessions. The Palestinians agree to certain stipulations and promptly renege. The US holds Israel to their agreement. The Palestinians get away with murder (literally), again.

At some point, Israel is going to have to say enough. Time for Abbas to do as he agreed.

31 posted on 08/18/2005 4:43:14 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Alouette

I am terribly disappointed to hear this from Rice. Has she not heard the addage "to the victor go the spoils".

The Arabs began a war and lost. That land belongs to Israel. What are the Palestinians giving up? Nothing.

I'm disgusted to hear this from Condi, who I have admired for years, but she's out to lunch on this one.


32 posted on 08/18/2005 4:43:34 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Alouette

Our policy is assinine. Israel took this land after they were attacked. For them to give it back will do nothing to serve the cause of peace. Hammas and the rest of that ilk want nothing more than to drive the Jews into the sea. GWB wake up before its too late!! This is no road map for peace, it's a road map for destruction.


33 posted on 08/18/2005 4:44:54 PM PDT by KenmcG414
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To: Yehuda; Salem; Alouette
Is this why we helped to reelect them? So they could cut Israel in half and simlutaneously tell Bin Laden and Zarqawi that terrorism pays, and to fight harder against US? WE MUST CALL THEM ON THIS NOW.

For whatever my word is worth around here, I agree, most emphatically.

34 posted on 08/18/2005 4:45:02 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Alouette

Oh, I get it. Israelis, just pack up and move out of your country, period. Here, we'll help Hamas, Hizballah and Islamic Jihad assist you out. What a crock, what a back-stabbing thing for Rice to say. Forget her!

DO NOT FOLLOW WHAT WE SAY ISRAEL!! If you had followed what people were demanding, you wouldn't have lasted past 1947.


36 posted on 08/18/2005 4:45:48 PM PDT by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: ml/nj
Tine for a " Barf Alert" tag on Condi pronouncements? I am sorry to say she is very disappointing as a Secretary of State. She has also messed up on two other Middle East issues, Southern Sudan and Mauritania within the space of less than 2 weeks.
37 posted on 08/18/2005 4:46:11 PM PDT by Our_Man_In_Gough_Island
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To: Alouette
Well, she's just exuding sympathy for the people whose lives were recently turned upside down, isn't she? She couldn't even have had the decency to focus her comments only on the Pallies, and say to them that it's now their turn to do something dramatic to show how committed they are to peace. (had to suppress a barf as I typed that last phrase)
38 posted on 08/18/2005 4:46:17 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Alouette

Thanks for the post. Interesting. Very interesting.


39 posted on 08/18/2005 4:47:04 PM PDT by PGalt (you're either with us or you're against us)
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To: joesnuffy
What does this tell you?

That they asked for it, they got it, those arabs.

Hey, don't go away mad. -your Arab butt buddies want to play.

Want to know who the proud father is in the background?
He's right here. Life, 1970


40 posted on 08/18/2005 4:47:07 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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