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UK’s Muslims have failed to respond to the challenge of the 7/7 moment
The Indian Express ^ | Thursday, August 18, 2005 at 0000 hours IST | T. V. R. SHENOY

Posted on 08/18/2005 9:43:16 AM PDT by Gengis Khan

How could 62,040,606 Americans get it so wrong? So wailed a tee-shirt slogan last November. The reference, of course, was to the votes garnered by US President George Bush, which gave him a second term. If something does not happen to change attitudes — and very quickly at that — I expect to see another tee-shirt on my next trip to London bearing the slogan: How could 1.6 million Muslims get it so wrong?

In the wake of the 7/7 London bombings (and the me-too attempt a week later), everyone expected the Muslim community in Britain to be contrite about all that had happened. Instead, the only Muslim voices hitting the headlines were those calling for more of the same.

The Sunday Times ran a long story about how it had sent its reporter, a Muslim, to investigate the activities of Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed — a Syrian-born radical cleric who lived on the British dole and used Britain’s traditional tolerance to preach violence to the society around him (he has subsequently left the country). According to the report, Bakri and his followers will be satisfied with nothing less than “flying the Islamic flag over Downing Street”. Sheikh Omar Brooks was quoted saying that it was a Muslim’s duty to stay apart from the rest of society: “Never mix with them. Never let your children play with their children.” A third man reportedly said that non-believers were dispensable.

It really does not matter whether Muslims in general share this extremist attitude, for all practical purposes the fundamentalists are the only ones being heard by the rest of Britain. And it is not just the Anglo-Saxons who are listening but also the youngsters in the Muslim community. MI5, says The Independent, has told Britain’s Prime Minister Blair that there could be as many as 10,000 young Muslim men on British soil who have had some form of military training. (Sheikh Omar Brooks himself has claimed that he was trained in Pakistan.)

There was no visible backlash against the Muslim community in Britain immediately after the London blasts. Some commentators went so far as to mouth the usual politically correct spiel about how poverty and poor education were at the root of misguided youth adopting terrorism. But I am not sure how much more the British can stomach of being denounced as “kafir” by men who are living on the dole. There is still no open hostility aimed at the many Arab families who are seen frequenting the shops and restaurants of London but — make no mistake about it — there has been a change of attitude, a wariness that now extends to Muslims in general.

Some Britons are more open about their likes and dislikes. “Maybe now it’s time to start listening to the BNP,” says the headline next to a photo from the scene of the London blasts. It is a leaflet released by the British National Party for a council by-election in Barking, London. In case someone had not got the message, party leader Nick Griffin was quite explicit: “The Labour Party for years has allowed Islamic extremists to preach in mosques in Britain and use them to recruit people to their cause. It is the Labour Party that is to blame.” Griffin is already facing charges of spreading race hatred but everyone is afraid that he is simply articulating aloud what many Britons believe silently.

However, there is a crucial difference between the Nick Griffins of the world and the likes of Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed. The British National Party is not conducting classes for budding terrorists, nor is it applauding the London Bombers as “the Fantastic Four”. Which leads ordinary Britons to wonder why it is Griffin who is being prosecuted by the government while the Syrian preacher could draw an allowance from the same authorities. There is no answer to that question.

Ordinary Muslims, meaning the vast mass of the community in Britain, are not helping their cause. They do not support the London bombings, they may even occasionally condemn the terrorists (though rarely by that name) themselves, but there is a always a sting in the tail. “What of Iraq?” they ask, “Aren’t there bombings and other acts of violence in that land which was once the seat of the Caliphs?”

This is a fatal rider. The Anglo-Saxons immediately respond, “Are you being ill-treated? Haven’t we allowed you to settle down in our land, to live off our bounty, and to follow your own religious practices in peace? Do you consider yourselves British citizens, or citizens of a wider Islamic community?”

Actually, that question has already been tackled by Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed and his followers to their own satisfaction. Al-Muhajiroun, a radical group associated with the Sheikh, went so far as to justify the London bombings. Its spokesman, Anjum Choudhury, claimed he was not surprised by the attacks since all Muslims had an obligation to support Muslims in other countries in the course of a jihad. (According to some reports, Al-Muhajiroun has been officially disbanded — only to reappear under other names.)

Is that really how all Muslims feel? If not, it is up to the Muslim community itself to clarify that Anjum Choudhury and his ilk do not speak for all Muslims. Can the Muslims of Britain condemn the London bombings unequivocally, without once mentioning the words ‘Iraq’ or ‘Palestine’? Or has the Muslim community sunk so deep into a persecution complex — convinced that it is the victim rather than the attacker — that it cannot?

A “clash of civilizations” seemed far-fetched when Huntington first advanced the thesis. The silence of the British Muslims lends substance to that apocalyptic theory.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: india; islam; londonattack; londonattacked; londonbombing; muslim; rop; suicidebombing; terrorism; uk; ukmuslims

1 posted on 08/18/2005 9:43:19 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan

Good article.

In terms of opinion in India, how mainstream is this piece?

I'm curious because, by Western standards, this article is very "un-P.C."


2 posted on 08/18/2005 9:53:20 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Gengis Khan
"Instead, the only Muslim voices hitting the headlines were those calling for more of the same."

There are very few moderate muslims. A smallish group of radicals, a huge majority supporting those radicals, and a handful of moderates who risk their lives if they speak out. Islam is the problem.
3 posted on 08/18/2005 9:56:30 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country.)
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To: Modernman

T. V. R. SHENOY is a very well known freelancer and Indian Express has a huge circulation (probably second only to the Times of India as far as English daylies are concerned).

"I'm curious because, by Western standards, this article is very "un-P.C.""

"un-P.C." articles in the Indian media arnt rare.


4 posted on 08/18/2005 10:02:43 AM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Gengis Khan
everyone expected the Muslim community in Britain to be contrite about all that had happened.

Then reality set in.

5 posted on 08/18/2005 10:04:17 AM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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To: Gengis Khan

6 posted on 08/18/2005 10:26:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Modernman

In fact this article also appeared in the paper edition of the Indian Express. Thats how I noticed.

This article is hardly " un-pc" by Indian standards if you happen to read local daylies like "Samna" that comes in Marathi(the local language of Mumbai).


7 posted on 08/18/2005 10:32:29 AM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Modernman
The Indian Express is a somewhat anti-Muslim (not really, but certainly feels like it when you read the dhimmitude in other Indian dailies) popular newspaper. It probably ranks within the top 50 newspapers world-over, in terms of readership. It has a large Indian readership.
8 posted on 08/18/2005 10:42:00 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Gengis Khan
A “clash of civilizations” seemed far-fetched when Huntington first advanced the thesis. The silence of the British Muslims lends substance to that apocalyptic theory.

Their fascination with death will kill them all in the end, and the history books will finally address their farce of a religion.
9 posted on 08/18/2005 12:44:41 PM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: conservativewasp
I saw a pol that said 1/4 of UK Muslims (ie. 400,000) would NOT inform the police if they knew a Muslim involved in terrorism.

The UK's Muslim population is now 5%. Imagine what the Brits will face in 20 years...

Europe is committing suicide and they don't even realize it.

10 posted on 08/18/2005 12:48:07 PM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: johnnyBbad

I bet alot of them lied in that poll. Yes Europe is in deep trouble. Some of the countries will figure it out, but it's going to be another major war in Europe sooner or later.


11 posted on 08/18/2005 12:55:57 PM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country. Just look at Mexifornia.)
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To: Gengis Khan
A third man reportedly said that nonbelievers were dispensable.

They say Christians are nonbelievers...What more proof do you need to realize that they DON'T worship GOD? Allah is a lunar lord...a destroyer...YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR WORKS!
12 posted on 08/18/2005 1:43:01 PM PDT by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel)
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To: johnnyBbad
The UK's Muslim population is now 5%. Imagine what the Brits will face in 20 years...

The figure is 3%, about the same as the US.
13 posted on 08/18/2005 3:14:27 PM PDT by pau1f0rd (Still more majestic shalt thou rise, More dreadful from each foreign stroke.)
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To: Gengis Khan

The Muzzies are out to conquer the world as they were commanded to do in Surah 8:36 of the accursed Koran.


14 posted on 08/18/2005 3:17:32 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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