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Jesus would vote Democratic
Left Wing Seattle Times ^ | Thursday, August 18, 2005 | LINDA VALDEZ

Posted on 08/18/2005 7:34:07 AM PDT by against_kerry

The Democrats turn their lonely eyes to Hillary: Give us a message. Lead us home.

Even for the Wonder Woman of the Party of JFK, this is no easy task. How to decry the excesses of the Bush administration and the GOP Congress without validating the label "The Party of No"?

How to lure enough GOP votes to win elections at a time when Democrat means liberal and liberal is a term of derision?

A Web site set up by a minister and his daughter (www.liveliberal.com) has an answer you can wear on a T-shirt: "Liberal is not a dirty word."

Retired Lutheran minister Daniel Bruch of Live Liberal gets right to the point: "I don't know if Jesus was the first liberal, but he was an important one."

Jesus taught love, tolerance, forgiveness, charity and humility. Don't take my word for it. Read the New Testament. It's not that long. And it's not about fire-and-brimstone fundamentalism, judging one another or dominating the Earth. It outlines a philosophy based on a really radical idea: Love your creator, love yourself, love your neighbor as yourself.

When it comes to following this lesson, the current administration "is walking 180 degrees opposite of the person they call their savior," Bruch said in a phone interview.

On their Web site, Bruch and daughter Sarah offer quotes and essays on liberalism that Hillary Rodham Clinton should work into her speeches. For example, "liberals support changes that increase personal freedom and tolerance, and exercise the liberty to empower government to the extent necessary to achieve those ends."

Instead of trying to make their best candidate, Clinton, into a vanilla-flavored, inoffensive centrist, Democrats ought to boldly point out that liberals provided the impetus to move society toward acceptance of civil rights, women's rights, children's rights, consumers' rights, etc.

Liberals also deserve "family values" mantle because the 40-hour workweek, laws against child labor and other protections for workingmen and women were liberal ideas of old. High-quality childcare is a liberal idea for today's working families.

They should be "for" better wages.

They should be "for" national health care.

They should be "for" being liberals. They should point out that Jesus was a liberal, too.

Somehow, Democrats let others define them as elitist snobs. That label, not the liberal label, is the one Democrats have to shake.

Can Hillary help them do it?

She has the charisma and the intelligence -- and she has infinite patience, or Bill would be toast. She needs the guts to take a proud left turn and loudly proclaim that the United States is not a "Christian nation" in any pinched or exclusionary way. It's a nation that honors the individual rights of pagans, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and others, as well as Christians.

It is also nation that acts for the common good in ways that were meticulously outlined by a radical liberal named Jesus. Linda Valdez is an editorial writer at The Arizona Republic. She can be reached at linda.valdez@arizonarepublic.com


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To: DaveLoneRanger

Great article!


141 posted on 08/21/2005 4:27:34 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: against_kerry
"Jesus would vote Democratic"

In Chicago anyway since He was executed almost 2000 years ago.

142 posted on 08/21/2005 4:30:43 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: against_kerry
I think Jesus would vote his conscience. Since the Dems don't have one... he would vote any other party...but not the Democrats. Seriously...he would vote the morals issue versus the social issues first. Thus, again...he wouldn't vote for the Democrats.
143 posted on 08/21/2005 4:34:30 AM PDT by Tycobb
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To: Baynative

I just sent this to Valdork:

The presence of Jesus indicates the truth in there being a theological system of rewards and punishment. With that as a foundation, it proves that Jesus is intolerant of those who sin.

Ergo: Jesus would never be a democrat.

Steve


144 posted on 08/21/2005 4:45:16 AM PDT by Loud Mime (War is Mankind's way of ridding the world of the tyranny caused by liberalism)
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To: FastCoyote

---The Dems have been known to raise the dead to vote, so I wouldn't completely reject this.===

Wait a minute...if the Dems raise the dead, that means they are god?

;)


145 posted on 08/21/2005 5:05:57 AM PDT by Loud Mime (War is Mankind's way of ridding the world of the tyranny caused by liberalism)
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To: billbears

Lets talk ethics: If a Christian believes that murder is wrong, does he only believe that because its what a Christian believes? Of course not. He believes that murder is wrong because such a belief is ethical.

If an ethical person believes in doing good, one should not reject that good because its what the religious also believe.

Furthermore, Jesus believed in the power of government and succumbed to its powers, possibly as a lesson to us all concerning the terrors that could be inflicted by a government that does not obey its own laws.

Jesus believed in government's power. He also believed in doing what was ethical. Put those two together and you have a silent order for us all.


146 posted on 08/21/2005 5:14:09 AM PDT by Loud Mime (War is Mankind's way of ridding the world of the tyranny caused by liberalism)
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To: against_kerry
Jesus wouldn't vote at all.
He would live a sinless life
die on a cross
be resurrected on the third day
and be declared King of Kings
by acclamation by God the Father.
147 posted on 08/21/2005 5:18:10 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: Baynative

Man oh man! That was well said!


149 posted on 08/21/2005 5:59:51 AM PDT by bad company (when you hinder the war effort of one side, you help the other.)
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To: Loud Mime
possibly as a lesson to us all concerning the terrors that could be inflicted by a government that does not obey its own laws

By that argument, you have only further confirmed what I said. Republicans nor Democrats use the government to forward their own ideals even if that requires that they break the 'laws'(i.e. specific powers of the federal government as outlined in the Constitution) of the government.

151 posted on 08/21/2005 6:24:12 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: against_kerry

What's left of Linda Valdez's mind is a terrible waste.


152 posted on 08/21/2005 6:26:44 AM PDT by auboy
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To: PhilipFreneau
Exactly what He said He was doing. Protecting His Father's (or His) house. Much could be said from that aspect of the nationalism that runs rampant in God's house today.

But thank you for pointing out that aspect

153 posted on 08/21/2005 6:27:48 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: coconutt2000
Jesus might turn the ballots into wine.

Liberals, on the other hand, turn ballots into whine.

154 posted on 08/21/2005 6:31:58 AM PDT by reg45
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To: against_kerry

Jesus is dead. Dead people vote Democratic. Just ask Mayor Daley.


155 posted on 08/21/2005 6:37:15 AM PDT by reg45
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To: against_kerry; All

I dont believe Dean & his cohorts would welcome Jesus into their flock. They would diss Him the same way they do Zell Miller.....


156 posted on 08/21/2005 6:38:13 AM PDT by texianyankee
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To: against_kerry
High-quality childcare is called "mommy-care".
157 posted on 08/21/2005 6:39:10 AM PDT by reg45
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To: against_kerry
Well, since the dim/lib/socialist philosophy is based on class envy which promotes greed, envy and covetousness - all covered rather well in the Ten Commandments and Seven Deadly Sins - somehow I doubt it.

Since we're talking about religion, I assume the writer only means well and wants everyone to "get into heaven". What kind of heaven points are scored when one "shares" at the point of a gun instead of voluntarily? Seems to me like it doesn't mean much.

Somehow I think Jesus would be much more supportive of teaching someone to fish instead of giving him a fish. With the exception of widows, orphans, elderly and the infirm, the fostering of a dependent, incompetent class of healthy people doesn't sound like a Christian ideal to me.

158 posted on 08/21/2005 6:46:14 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: against_kerry
Okay, one more time:

Jesus would not vote Democrat. The very thought is preposterous.

Jesus is a royalist.

159 posted on 08/21/2005 6:47:39 AM PDT by RichInOC (You must purge the stupidity from among you. And the people said Amen and Amen.)
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To: against_kerry
Hillary has charisma?

We really do inhabit different planets, don't we? Or does the writer confuse charisma with fame/name recognition?

160 posted on 08/21/2005 6:48:31 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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