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To: Sabramerican
The notion that Israel can hold on to a territory full of hostile Palestinians is a fantasy.

The Palestinians wish to exterminate the Jews. We know this. Rice knows this. Do you think they are stupid? Better the enemy without than the enemy within. The fact is that the Israelis cannot absorb a hostile population of Arabs who wish to kill them, no matter how many settlers you wish to plant down in Gaza and the West Bank.

Best to leave the Pallies to their own devices, and to their own inevitable civil war.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

5 posted on 08/18/2005 6:09:49 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: section9

You are right, but it still hurts.


11 posted on 08/18/2005 6:12:08 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: section9

The Jewish tie to the land is found in Judea- what some call the West Bank, not in the malls of Tel Aviv.

Now that we know it's OK to move population, if there are too many Arabs, there is a solution.


19 posted on 08/18/2005 6:16:18 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: section9

That is a cold calculation, Chris. I like it.

I still can't fathom why advertise it though. They can be working to isolate the Palis in their own playpen as a policy in Israel, but why should the US be front and center the mouthpiece to the Arab world? Does Dr. Rice really believe her statements will achieve some consideration from the Arabs that would be more beneficial than the perceived betrayal of the Israelis?


23 posted on 08/18/2005 6:18:51 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: section9
Better the enemy without than the enemy within.

You make a good point, Chris. I was dead set against a Palestinian state for a long time. Now it is probably inevitable, and does offer some advantages.

1. Palestine will be a nation-state and will be expected to behave like one. Legitimate governments do not sponsor terror. They can be put on the state sponsors of terror list and we can refuse to give them any aid or trade with them.

2. Once they are a country they can be invaded if clear provocation is shown.

3. It will take away a major gripe that the Arab world has against us. (In my opinion most of the leaders of Arab nations could not care less about the "Palenstinians", however they use it as an excuse to spurn us.) Al Qaeda claims to care, more or less, though I don't read about Al Qaeda activity in Palestine. SO politically it might be a good move.

I am still not comfortable with taking Israeli land, but everyone will answer to god someday.

37 posted on 08/18/2005 6:28:19 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: section9

Thanks for a voice of reason..allow me to add to it..a glance at the map shows that Israel's security buffer zone around Gaza is wider than the Gaza strip itself...it will be a no-man's land...also, sometime in the next year or Israel will have to take action against the Iranian nuke sites, and also move into southern Lebanon..they are just tighening the lines now...


71 posted on 08/18/2005 7:07:47 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: section9

Thanks for a voice of reason..allow me to add to it..a glance at the map shows that Israel's security buffer zone around Gaza is wider than the Gaza strip itself...it will be a no-man's land...also, sometime in the next year or Israel will have to take action against the Iranian nuke sites, and also move into southern Lebanon..they are just tighenting the lines now...


72 posted on 08/18/2005 7:07:55 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: section9

I think you're correct.
And when the Palis fail to control themselves, Israel can wage war on 'em as a national entity.


161 posted on 08/18/2005 9:26:06 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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