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Rice: Israel's evacuation of the Gaza Strip is only a first step
Haaretz ^ | 8/18/2005 | Haaretz

Posted on 08/18/2005 6:04:21 AM PDT by Sabramerican

Rice: Israel's evacuation of the Gaza Strip is only a first step

By Haaretz Service

WASHINGTON - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Wednesday said that while she feels for evacuated settlers Israel will be expected to make further concessions that would ultimately lead to an independent Palestinian state.

"Everyone empathizes with what the Israelis are facing," Rice said, but added "It cannot be Gaza only."

In an interview published by the New York Times, Rice said that the Palestinian Authority must move quickly to disarm Palestinian factions intent on breaking the current cease-fire with Israel.

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The Secretary of State offered sympathy for the settlers who are being evacuated from their homes in Gaza but also made it clear that she expected Israel and the Palestinians to take further steps in short order toward the creation of a Palestinian state.

Such steps would include loosening travel restrictions in the West Bank and withdrawing from more Palestinian cities.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretzdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bestfriendever; bohica; israel; rice
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

Are you kidding about loving O'Really? He's refused to touch this story all week. I do watch him though... as Bill Maher said on his show last night, it moves along at a clip that never seems to bore. But I'm angry that he has embargoed Able Danger and the Israeli pogrom against its own people.


141 posted on 08/18/2005 8:33:43 AM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: freedomson


Weigh in here...

"A Rice-Allen Ticket in '08?"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465300/posts#comment?q=1


142 posted on 08/18/2005 8:36:39 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: Sabramerican

The Wahhabist devils have burrowed into every aspect of western foreign policy and are continuing to employ OUR petro dollars in undermining western civilization and spreading Sharia insanity.

We are fighting Islamic terrorists yet our government is afraid to even name them for what their are.

The U.S. State Department is a collection of stool pigeons, political hacks with no brains, and beaurocratic sell-outs who have adopted an unhealthy affinity for the nations in which they serve, instead of maintaining any loyalty to the U.S They are a nest of vipers which should be cleaned out totally and replaced by patriotic Americans who recognize where their primary loyalties lie.


143 posted on 08/18/2005 8:37:03 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Sabramerican
I agree with Moore about the insidious Bush/Saudi relationship.
Just damn...

-Eric

144 posted on 08/18/2005 8:38:24 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned from FR has never read a Middle East thread.)
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To: Alberta's Child; cyborg; HankReardon; Sabramerican; veronica; Fitzcarraldo; billbears
Now that's just brilliant. U.S. foreign policy in 2005 is supposed to be dictated by some passage from the Book of Genesis?

I can't think of a respected US military or political leader during a time of war who has ever eschewed the Bible.(Washington, Lincoln, Lee, Sherman, Teddy, Patton, Marshall, etc)

And given the mortal and centuries old enemy we are again facing, why should we disdain our historical precdence now?

Do you know of a better source of guidance for our leaders in a time of peril than God?

145 posted on 08/18/2005 8:39:42 AM PDT by wardaddy (Israel will get nothing for Gaza.)
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To: ZULU

ZULU-You nailed it.


146 posted on 08/18/2005 8:42:11 AM PDT by eddiemunster
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To: wardaddy
Do you know of a better source of guidance for our leaders in a time of peril than God?

My main issue with the 'roadmap to peace' and a confusion why evangelicals would support Bush knowing this would be the eventual outcome of 'conservative' foreign policy as it relates to Israel.

147 posted on 08/18/2005 8:46:09 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears

same ol story Bill.

cause the Dems would be worse....sadly

we have to frequently accept milquetoast from the GOP for precisely that.

i feel betrayed often....and taken for granted.


148 posted on 08/18/2005 8:50:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (Israel will get nothing for Gaza.)
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To: wardaddy
It's one thing to use the Bible for spiritual guidance, as a personal moral code, or as a source of poetic quotations in public speeches. Using it -- particularly the Old Testament -- as a religious foundation of our nation's foreign policy is such a bizarre notion that I question the mental stability of anyone who makes such a suggestion.

For one thing, you'll find that none of the nations in the world today bears any resemblance to what was commonly understood as a nation back in Old Testament times. In fact, the basic structure of a modern elected government is utterly incompatible with a Biblical concept of a nation/state. If you read the entire Bible from cover to cover, you'll find that a totalitarian government was the normal state of existence for the entire period of time that it covers.

149 posted on 08/18/2005 8:53:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Wow....you are way out there AC.

The Bible is the bedrock of Western Civilization and you might note that where Juedo-Christian culture exists that those cultures generally flourish as opposed to others.

But be my guest in denying that and thy maker.

You have the right to be wrong. Gaia bless you.


150 posted on 08/18/2005 8:56:38 AM PDT by wardaddy (Israel will get nothing for Gaza.)
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To: eddiemunster

"He hasn't been convicted of anything as far as I know. I don't think he's a criminal at this point."

I think you may be referring to his status as an "unindicted criminal".


151 posted on 08/18/2005 8:57:21 AM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: ASA Vet
I wasn't attempting to judge the policy myself. Merely making the observation that she agrees with or is neutral to the Presidents policy.
Fair enough. But considering how central the "road map" has been to his foreign policy objectives, I doubt she would have gotten the job if she didn't herself support it.

-Eric

152 posted on 08/18/2005 9:02:06 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned from FR has never read a Middle East thread.)
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To: GladesGuru

Fox showing

Protesters are pouring oil(tar) and feathers on the police..


153 posted on 08/18/2005 9:03:11 AM PDT by juzcuz
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To: tutstar

What happened to the Pres.'s words, "Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists?"

What has happened is that theh Saudi's told Bush, give the Pail's victories or we will give you an oil price induced recession.

Remember what happened after Nixon resupplied the Israeli's in the Yom Kippur War? The Saudi retaliation was the Oil Embargo.

Suggested cure: Link financial war to real war. If the price of oil is used as a weapon, neutron bomb the Saudi and Iranian oil fields and then take them over. Permanently.


154 posted on 08/18/2005 9:03:39 AM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: wardaddy
The Bible is the bedrock of Western Civilization and you might note that where Juedo-Christian culture exists that those cultures generally flourish as opposed to others.

Great -- so what does that have to do with U.S. foreign policy today? What does "Judaeo-Christian culture" have to say about the Middle East, U.S. domestic policy, etc.?

It's no mere accident that the words "United States of America" are nowhere to be found in the Bible.

155 posted on 08/18/2005 9:06:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: veronica
That's true, but the State Dept. frames the policy for the public. To come out now, at this moment, and put the onus on Israel in this manner, is bizarre. But Mother Condi has had a tin ear since she took the job as Sec. of State.

I don't blame her for that, I blame the President. Once Condi became Secretary of State, she adopted the policies of the administration regardless of her opinions on them.

As you say, the State Department frames the policy for the public. But the State Department doesn't set the policies. It's her job to advise the President and then, once he has made a decision, to represent his decision out in the world.

Unless you think this issue is worth her resignation and public repudiation of the President, I don't know what else you would expect her to do.

156 posted on 08/18/2005 9:11:34 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Alberta's Child
It's no mere accident that the words "United States of America" are nowhere to be found in the Bible.

Do you think that the Bible is only for prophecy or some sort of fortune telling magic?

Why do you think we support Israel? (however flawed that support)

A mainly Christian populace who know the right thing and a strong Jewish lobby that shares that. Both are rooted in the Bible and those traditions to varying degrees. To deny that is ignorance or the wishful thinking of an atheist.

157 posted on 08/18/2005 9:16:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (Israel will get nothing for Gaza.)
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To: GladesGuru

Gas prices here are about refinery capacities more than overseas supply.


158 posted on 08/18/2005 9:17:34 AM PDT by wardaddy (Israel will get nothing for Gaza.)
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To: Sabramerican

I fear this is the beginning of the end. The stage is set. How in the world does anyone think we can trust the Palestinians? They have broken every treaty and promise. They have been given the perfect staging area to attack Israel.


159 posted on 08/18/2005 9:20:28 AM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where there are no rules or standards in elections.)
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To: HankReardon
.So do Mexicans long for their Californian coasts and Texas ranches

Even though few ever lived at least in California. Californios were SPANISH. A few Mexicans of indio extraction came for the Gold Rush but most left soon after for the more genteel environs of Mexico.

160 posted on 08/18/2005 9:22:56 AM PDT by tertiary01 (It took 21 years but 1984 finally arrived.)
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