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(Cornell) Plan would move African wildlife to U.S. (lions in Nebraska?)
The State.Com ^ | Posted on Thu, Aug. 18, 2005 | By JOSEPH B. VERRENGIA

Posted on 08/18/2005 5:52:59 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Lions stalking deer in the stubble of a Nebraska cornfield. Elephants trumpeting across Colorado’s high plains. Cheetah slouching through the West Texas scrub.

Prominent ecologists are floating an audacious plan that sounds like a “Jumanji” sequel — transplant African wildlife to the Great Plains of North America.

Their radical proposal is greeted with gasps and groans from other scientists and conservationists who recall previous efforts to relocate foreign species halfway around the world, often with disastrous results.

The authors contend it could help save Africa’s poster species from extinction, where protection is spotty and habitat is vanishing.

“We aren’t backing a truck up to some dump site in the dark and turning lose a bunch of elephants,” said Cornell University ecologist Harry W. Greene, one of the plan’s authors.

While most modern African species never lived on the American prairie, the scientists think today’s animals could duplicate the natural roles played by their departed, even larger cousins — mastodons, camels and saber-toothed cats — that roamed for more than 1 million years alongside antelope and bison.

But the scientists’ plan, which appears in today’s issue of the journal Nature, is triggering thunderclaps of criticism, with discouraging words such as “stupid” and “defeatist” raining down.

Critics point to Australia, which was overrun by rabbits and poisonous cane toads after misguided species relocations.

Some conservationists said the plan would further damage the prospects of African species on their native turf, as well as that continent’s hopes for sustainable economic development.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; US: Colorado; US: Nebraska; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cityofevil; cornell; ithaca
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

What a great way for liberal academics and pointless nonprofits to get grant money! These guys may never have to do an honest day's work again nor teach in a classroom ever again.


41 posted on 08/18/2005 6:50:09 AM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The lions and elephants will just love Nebraska winters.


42 posted on 08/18/2005 6:59:19 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I wonder if a 45-70 would put a pachyderm in the freezer, and the kids' freezers, and aunts' and uncles', and ....

Sure! The most used elephant round of all time was the (drum roll please) .303 Enfield! Shot placement is everything...
43 posted on 08/18/2005 6:59:38 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & GUNSNET.NET Moderator)
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To: El Laton Caliente

Years ago I read that the first settelers had reported seeing actual lions in America. Has anyone ver heard of this? The lions were described as having manes also.


44 posted on 08/18/2005 7:14:05 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (---an American with Cuban genes in Miami.............)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The idiots at Cornell are, and I am not making this up, already giddy at the fact that Coyotes are starting to make their way into the City of Evil.

Wait until their pets start getting snacked upon.

I don't think we have to worry about that happening. These are the same people that think keeping pets is akin to slavery.

45 posted on 08/18/2005 8:04:09 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

Uh, I meant "wait until their companion animals start getting snacked upon."


46 posted on 08/18/2005 8:07:09 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

There, much better!


47 posted on 08/18/2005 8:09:30 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: cyborg; Squantos

All you have to do is go to South Texas, lots of African plains game down that way.


48 posted on 08/18/2005 8:12:01 AM PDT by TEXASPROUD
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

HA ha...
49 posted on 08/18/2005 8:14:22 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: cubreporter

Why not release them all in Ithaca and on the campus of Cornell if they think it is such a grand idea?


That was my first thought too.


50 posted on 08/18/2005 8:14:37 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: El Laton Caliente

The ideal calliber - the .577 Tyrannosaur:

http://www.military.com/Video/gun.mpeg

Yes, it has a little recoil, but it does a heck of a job on the receiving end...

Over 10000 ft/lbs of energy with a bullet of 750gr. traveling at a muzzle velocity of approx. 2500 ft/sec.


51 posted on 08/18/2005 8:14:49 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

Never heard of that one. Wonder if they mistook grizzlies for lions?


52 posted on 08/18/2005 8:18:57 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & GUNSNET.NET Moderator)
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To: cpdiii
Would someone be so kind as to remind the idiots at Cornell that Lions eat meat, lots of meat, they consider humans an absolute delicacy and put them at the top of their menu.

Though lions are carnivores, humans are rarely on their menu. We are not part of their regular diet.

In Africa, in terms of attacks on humans, the big cats aren't what you should worry about. There's a much bigger risk of getting attacked by a hippo or a cape buffalo, for example.

And the most lethal animal on the African continent is probably the mosquito.

Even with all of this, introducing lions to the Great Plains is probably not a good idea.

53 posted on 08/18/2005 8:19:12 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
But in Ithaca that might be considered nothing but an extremely late term abortion.

Regular late term abortion?

54 posted on 08/18/2005 8:24:04 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Smokin' Joe

depends on how quick you want it to die. use a solothurn or a lahti for a quick kill.


55 posted on 08/18/2005 8:24:57 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
So a guy from New York wants to introduce these animals into Nebraska, Colorado, and Texas, does he? I'll be for one of these species introduction/reintroduction plans the day they want to stick these animals someplace east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon line.
56 posted on 08/18/2005 8:32:19 AM PDT by Glenmerle
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To: Mr. Jeeves

They did.

From the article:

"They also believe that the relocated animals could restore biodiversity on this continent to a condition closer to what nature was like before humans overran the landscape."


57 posted on 08/18/2005 8:37:22 AM PDT by redangus
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To: absolootezer0

I guess if it went too slowly there would be plenty of meat for the wake....sure beats a spear, though (Clovis).


58 posted on 08/18/2005 8:46:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: Modernman

I think it's kinda cool . . . as long as I'm not going to pay for it. But WTF do I know living in the NE!


59 posted on 08/18/2005 9:13:09 AM PDT by BroncosFan ("Now we grieve, 'cause now it's gone / But things were good when we were young.")
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To: BroncosFan
I think it's kinda cool . . . as long as I'm not going to pay for it. But WTF do I know living in the NE!

If I was a multi-billionaire, I'd buy a whole lot of property in West Texas or one of the more southern Great Plains states (we're talking property the size of Belgium) and turn it into a giant African game preserve. Elephants, Rhinos, Springbok, Hyenas, Lions, Cheetahs etc.

Then, I'd invest in cloning mammoths, sabertoothed cats and other extinct mega-fauna.

That, and hire tens of thousands of people to re-create famous historical battles. So, do you want to be Wellington or Napolean this time?

60 posted on 08/18/2005 9:19:41 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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