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Did bad heroin kill two coeds?
New York Daily News and lastnightsparty.com ^ | 8/16/05 | AUSTIN FENNER, ADAM LISBERG and ROBERT F. MOORE

Posted on 08/17/2005 11:44:14 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

Two college coeds used cocaine with a pair of convicted drug dealers and had fresh needle marks on their arms when they overdosed in a lower East Side apartment, sources said yesterday.

Police believe a bad batch of heroin may have contributed to the deaths of Mellie Carballo and Maria Pesantez, both 18 and with promising futures.

It was unclear who supplied the drugs, but heartbroken relatives of the victims blamed Roberto Martinez, 41, and Alfredo (Tito) Morales, 33, who were with the teens Friday when the students apparently overdosed.

"How is it possible that they are free?" asked distraught father Juan Carlos Pesantez outside the family's home in Jackson Heights, Queens. "With those [criminal] records? With two girls dead?"

Carballo, a second-semester student at Hunter College, and Pesantez, an NYU sophomore, were found about 6 p.m. Friday in an apartment at 484 E. Houston St. Carballo died 20 minutes later and Pesantez died Sunday.

The men admitted doing cocaine with the women, who met at St. Vincent Ferrer High School in Manhattan, a law enforcement source said.

Martinez, who placed a bouquet of red roses in front of the E. Houston St. apartment yesterday, told a different story to the Daily News. He said he came to the apartment, where Morales lives, after Morales called him in a panic.

"I saw [Pesantez] in the bedroom catching a seizure," Martinez said yesterday. "I tried to give her mouth-to-mouth and then I called 911."

Martinez said he met Carballo at a bar about a month ago and didn't meet Pesantez until Friday. He denied giving the women drugs, saying they brought drugs to Morales' apartment.

No one has been arrested and toxicology results are pending.

Morales was convicted in 1995 of possession of cocaine with intent to sell. Martinez, whose is on parole, has 13 narcotics arrests.

The coeds' friends told cops the women wanted to try heroin, a police source said. The friends also told police that Carballo, a former MTV intern, and Pesantez, a pianist and National Honor Society member, had done drugs before.

Relatives dispute that account.

"To my knowledge, she had never experimented with anything," said Celeste Carballo, 21, who shared a room with her sister at the family's West Side apartment.

College students Mellie Carballo (left) and Maria Pesantez, both 18, in an undated photo. The coeds died of suspected drug overdoses in a lower East Side apartment

Photos taken from memorial at http://www.lastnightsparty.com/mellie/index.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: addiction; dependence; heroin; wodlist
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To: seemoAR
If it were to be legalized there would be a tax put on it.

Probably.

The price would rise a whole lot. It would still be sold on the street.

Depends; alcohol taxes haven't resulted in a black market in alcohol.

No matter what you say, I will always believe that you are wrong.

I understand: your mind's made up, so don't confuse you with the facts.

381 posted on 08/21/2005 5:30:25 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: 76834
Glad you caught that - I was going to have to call you on it - spent all weekend on the beach with only internet access through my cell phone (115 KBPS) - now I'm back at top speed! Lookout FReeperville! Life is good!
Any one need any exclamation points? I've got lots! ;-)
382 posted on 08/21/2005 7:37:02 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Janet&Jamie are responsible for more deaths (Waco&911) than there have been soldiers killed in Iraq)
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To: Know your rights
I was not going to write to you again. I didn't think it was worth the trouble. I have noticed that you pick and choose which questions you will answer. You ignore questions that might be hard for you. I may do the same thing , I hope not. I will try again.

Will it be legal for children to buy drugs? Do you honestly think that they will be unable to get them?. Will there be laws preventing the sale of drugs to children? If so, won't the police get involved? Do I have a Constitutional right to sell poison to minors? Do you think children have the right to buy drugs? Will the drugs that are sold to the children be cheap? Do you think the dealers will jack up the price because of the danger they will be facing?. Do you think the dope will be heavily taxed if it is made legal? Do you think that dealers will take advantage of the higher prices of legal drugs if there is a large sin tax put on them? Have you ever heard of bootleg cigarettes? Will ID,s be checked at these cut rate dope dispensers? Do you think that will prevent children from getting them? Have you noticed how well that is working with cigarettes?

Do we create new areas of our towns so the legal addicts will have a nice place to meet?. That has been tried in Europe. Do you think that was a good idea. Do you think it worked? Do we erect a wall to hide them from view or do you think we should ignore them? Should young people be allowed to enter if they want to? Should flop houses be constructed so the addicts will have a safe place to crash? Should these dope dispensaries have a Drive-Thru. Should dope be sold at Sonic. Think how convenient it would be for an addict to get his fix from a place like McDonalds. Do you want catsup with your order of coke? Will it to legal to buy it at a drive thru if children are in the car?

You asked who said they liked dope? I would hope that dope dealers do not like it. It would be hard for them to have a successful business if they use all their profits wouldn't it? We wouldn't want that would we?

Note to self, If something looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck, smells like a duck,and poops like a duck its a duck.
383 posted on 08/22/2005 5:20:22 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: seemoAR
Will it be legal for children to buy drugs?

No.

Do you honestly think that they will be unable to get them?

They're not unable to get them now ... in fact, there's scarcely any room for things to get worse.

Have you ever heard of bootleg cigarettes?

Only in high-cig-tax areas; I've never heard of modern-day bootleg booze.

Will there be laws preventing the sale of drugs to children? If so, won't the police get involved? Do I have a Constitutional right to sell poison to minors? Do you think children have the right to buy drugs? Will the drugs that are sold to the children be cheap? Do you think the dealers will jack up the price because of the danger they will be facing?. Do you think the dope will be heavily taxed if it is made legal? Do you think that dealers will take advantage of the higher prices of legal drugs if there is a large sin tax put on them? [...] Will ID,s be checked at these cut rate dope dispensers? Do you think that will prevent children from getting them? Have you noticed how well that is working with cigarettes?

Do we create new areas of our towns so the legal addicts will have a nice place to meet?. That has been tried in Europe. Do you think that was a good idea. Do you think it worked? Do we erect a wall to hide them from view or do you think we should ignore them? Should young people be allowed to enter if they want to? Should flop houses be constructed so the addicts will have a safe place to crash? Should these dope dispensaries have a Drive-Thru. Should dope be sold at Sonic. Think how convenient it would be for an addict to get his fix from a place like McDonalds. Do you want catsup with your order of coke? Will it to legal to buy it at a drive thru if children are in the car?

Yes. Yes. No. No. No. Yes. No. Yes. Yes. Sometimes. Yes. No. No. No. Not applicable. No. No. No. No. No.

384 posted on 08/22/2005 6:22:06 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: BurbankKarl

"Police believe a bad batch of heroin may have contributed to the deaths of Mellie Carballo and Maria Pesantez, both 18 and with promising futures." ...Promising futures as what?, junkies?...and Natalee did'nt go to Aruba to drink and screw....LOL


385 posted on 08/22/2005 6:32:25 PM PDT by JABBERBONK (tHE)
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To: seemoAR

Your correct, also notice how the Libertarian nutjobs don't address the problem of product liability. I have read numerous accounts of some crack head tossing his girlfrinds baby out the window, do the Libertarian dolts not expect lawsuits? have they no knowledge of the Tobacco lawsuits and settlements?....remember that Libertarian motto..."give me Librium, or give me Meth"


386 posted on 08/22/2005 6:38:06 PM PDT by JABBERBONK (tHE)
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To: JABBERBONK
I have read numerous accounts of some crack head tossing his girlfrinds baby out the window, do the Libertarian dolts not expect lawsuits?

Have brewers or distillers ever been successfully sued for violence committed by drunks?

have they no knowledge of the Tobacco lawsuits and settlements?

I know tobacco firms lied for decades about the health hazards of that product.

387 posted on 08/22/2005 6:46:48 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
Alcohol if taken in small to moderate amounts will have little or no effect upon ones behavior, however crack, LSD, meth, and the like will. All drug use save marijuana is abuse, not so with alcohol....nice try though.
388 posted on 08/22/2005 8:35:34 PM PDT by JABBERBONK (tHE)
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To: Know your rights
I think I hear a duck. Yes, it is a duck. Its a Daffy Duck , Looney Tunes.
389 posted on 08/23/2005 5:42:22 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: JABBERBONK
Have brewers or distillers ever been successfully sued for violence committed by drunks?

Alcohol if taken in small to moderate amounts will have little or no effect upon ones behavior

Irrelevant to the violent behavior of many drunks.

390 posted on 08/23/2005 6:25:32 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
Thats why it's called "abuse", you know like when someone abuses the traffic regulations and plows into a tree at 90 mph, still want to sue the car manufacturer, since they actually built the car to go 115 mph?
391 posted on 08/24/2005 1:51:09 AM PDT by JABBERBONK (tHE)
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To: JABBERBONK
Thats why it's called "abuse"

Yes, and since we know of no successful suits against brewers or distillers for violence committed by drunks, we have no reason to suppose that makers of other legal recreational drugs could be successfully sued for the harmful acts of their users.

392 posted on 08/24/2005 6:46:53 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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