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Aloha!
1 posted on 08/17/2005 11:07:14 AM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: NathanBookman

Or, as that dunderhead Al Gore said during the 2000 presidential campaign, "From one, many." The drooling lapdog press refused to comment upon their boy's stupidity.


2 posted on 08/17/2005 11:09:54 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: NathanBookman

If they want to become just another island tourist economy, have at it. Don't expect military presence or subsidy of any kind, though.


3 posted on 08/17/2005 11:09:59 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: NathanBookman

Do you hear something?

I do.

It's the USA splintering.

Sad.


6 posted on 08/17/2005 11:14:16 AM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: NathanBookman

Will the new Hawaiian nation be able to practice slavery (common in Polynesian society)? And human sacrifice? In the Hawaiian royal family siblings often married. Will they bring that practice back too? How about not being allowed to walk in the same footprints as the king, a big taboo? Idiots! All this to be able to run casinos.....


7 posted on 08/17/2005 11:16:10 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: NathanBookman
Let's gather up a ship load of Illegal Immigrants and ship them to Hawaii...They'll fall in line real quick.

/Sarcasm


10 posted on 08/17/2005 11:21:46 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: NathanBookman

When there isn't one Hawaiian with more than 1/16th Hawaiian blood, how can they even think of this?

There's no such thing as a "pureblood" on the islands.

What? Are they after casinos? Is why they're doing it? Same as the american Indians.

Methinks they are after the Military reservations. Camp Smith, PACFLT sits on top of a dead volcano, Makalapa Crater, propbably soon to be declared a sacred burial site or somesuch.


13 posted on 08/17/2005 11:26:52 AM PDT by TruthNtegrity (Will someone please get Mrs. Sheehan some grief counseling?)
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To: NathanBookman
While visiting Maui I noticed in a guidebook that there was a heiau or Hawaiian temple platform not far from the main city. I decided to go visit. I was surprised to find that the entrance to the small park where the platform was located was behind some houses. The platform was on a small hill. The hill was surrounded by an unattractive industrial area.

In the days before the Hawaiian religion was outlawed (in the early 1800's), images of idols were placed on the platform, facing the Haleakala volcano. It seemed to me that the site had some important archaeological significance. Now it appeared that few people ever visited the park. Someone had obviously been doing some shooting there. A sign said that the care for the park had been turned over to a group interested in Hawaiian culture. It didn't appear that this group had done much for the park. I was left with the impression that the portion of Hawaiians who actually care about their cultural history is pretty low.

15 posted on 08/17/2005 11:37:40 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: NathanBookman

take away their electoral votes, their reps in Congress and all fed money
see how long they go solo
does this bill actually have a chance of passing?


19 posted on 08/17/2005 11:45:19 AM PDT by DM1
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The Akaka Bill's justification rests substantially on a 1993 Apology Resolution passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton when we were members of the Senate representing the states of Washington and Colorado.

Another Clinton aplogy! That idiot spent eight years going around the world apologizing for every imaginable wrong. Too bad he was too busy with that to address terrorism and OBL!

25 posted on 08/17/2005 11:57:57 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: NathanBookman
Hey, big Al has a bigger acceptance rating as a presidential candidate than Hillary, and I am tickled with that. This Hawaii nonsense comes up all the time, and that bill does not need to come out of committee. Any talk of seccession(sp) and we know what to do. Now, if New York or California wanted out, we would have to sit down for about 5 minutes and let them do it. What a load of crap! Or is that akaka???
29 posted on 08/17/2005 1:57:27 PM PDT by plainspeaker (Oh, for goodness sake! Shall we wring hands in unison????)
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To: NathanBookman

Aloha no ka'kou!

Rush was talking about this today.

Racism? In Hawaii!? I am shocked, SHOCKED! to hear it!


31 posted on 08/17/2005 3:14:59 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: NathanBookman

The Akaka bill is a major step toward Hawaiian independence. Akaka himself said so on NPR today.

For the US Congress -- and especially the Bush Administration -- to approve this bill is simply insane. But that's exactly what seems to be happening. Incredibly, the Bush Justice Department has recommended only a few changes to the Akaka bill (such as guaranteeing that US military forces could be stationed in Hawaii), rather than opposing it.

What on earth is wrong with the Justice Department?


35 posted on 08/17/2005 3:40:31 PM PDT by Poundstone
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To: NathanBookman
Second to last paragraph hits a little closer to home:

...the Akaka Bill, betray this nation's sacred motto: E pluribus unum. They would begin a process of splintering sovereignties in the U.S. for every racial, ethnic or religious group traumatized by an identity crisis. Movement is already afoot among a few Hispanic Americans to carve out race-based sovereignty from eight western states because the U.S. "wrongfully" defeated Mexico in the Mexican-American war.

Atzlan!

36 posted on 08/17/2005 6:12:32 PM PDT by XHogPilot (Islam is The Death Cult)
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To: NathanBookman; skip2myloo
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"The apology falsely declared that Native Hawaiians enjoyed inherent sovereignty over Hawaii to the exclusion of non-Native Hawaiians. To the extent sovereignty existed outside the monarch, it reposed equally with all Hawaiians irrespective of ancestry.

The apology falsely maintained that Native Hawaiians never by plebiscite relinquished sovereignty to the U.S. In 1959, Native Hawaiians voted by at least a 2-to-1 margin for statehood in a plebiscite.

Finally, the Apology Resolution and its misbegotten offspring, the Akaka Bill, betray this nation's sacred motto: E pluribus unum. They would begin a process of splintering sovereignties in the U.S. for every racial, ethnic or religious group traumatized by an identity crisis. Movement is already afoot among a few Hispanic Americans to carve out race-based sovereignty from eight western states because the U.S. "wrongfully" defeated Mexico in the Mexican-American war."

I'm half Dutch,1/4 British,and 1/4 Blackfoot Indian.I want three states,damnit!!!

40 posted on 08/18/2005 9:09:25 AM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: NathanBookman

We should just kick Hawaii out of the union. Two less socialist Senators.


41 posted on 08/25/2005 6:17:52 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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