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To: SJackson; Alouette
Utterly disgusting that a couple of out-of-control nutcases can undo in one instant all the fine work that the truly peace-loving ZAKA has been doing for years.

Zaka, they're right wing fanatics with beards aren't they.

If anyone goes there in this forum, ping me. Seriously.

ZAKA is the heir of the Israeli doctors and soldiers who risked their lives to help the victims of the Second Hebron Massacre, and also of the Arabs who risked their lives to shelter Jews from the First Hebron Massacre.

A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist. Islamic, Jewish, Christian, communist, or whatever. Beliefs do not make terrorists, and terrorists do not define beliefs.

-Eric

58 posted on 08/17/2005 8:38:39 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned from FR has never read a Middle East thread.)
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To: E Rocc
Arabs who risked their lives to shelter Jews from the First Hebron Massacre.

There were Germans who risked their lives to shelter Jews from the Holocaust but what does that have to do with ZAKA?

62 posted on 08/17/2005 8:42:24 AM PDT by Alouette (Yibaneh Beit HaMikdash bimera b'yamenu, v'ten helkeynu b'Torahtecha)
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To: E Rocc
A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist. Islamic, Jewish, Christian, communist, or whatever.

Very true. How do you know, however, that the word "terrorism" applies in this case? How is it different from "going postal," as many have done in this country?

Beliefs do not make terrorists, and terrorists do not define beliefs. Where on earth did you get this idea?

Terrorism is (i) an act of violence or threat thereof, (ii) inflicted on possibly very few with the purpose of instilling fear in the general population (iii) for the sake of achieving political objectives.

Like many, "terrorist" has come to signify for you a "bad person." Terrorists kill but very few that kill are terrorists.

73 posted on 08/17/2005 8:57:46 AM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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To: E Rocc

"ZAKA is the heir of the Israeli doctors and soldiers who risked their lives to help the victims of the Second Hebron Massacre, and also of the Arabs who risked their lives to shelter Jews from the First Hebron Massacre."

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The only way that Arabs/Muslims are "heir" to ZAKA is that they create the body parts that ZAKA has to clean up for burial.


What do Arabs/Muslims have to do with ZAKA? How does ZAKA have to do with the Muslim massacre of Jews in Hebron in 1922? Why do you give Arabs/Muslims credit for the acts of as Jewish humanitarian organization?

Zaka was formed in 1989 to fulfill the Jewish religious obligation to quickly bury the dead and all their body parts shattered by terror explosions.

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http://www.zaka.org.il/en/about.asp


"In 1989, while studying in a yeshiva, Yehuda Meshi Zahav, the founder and chairman of ZAKA, and his fellow students were startled into reality by a thunderous boom, 2 minutes of silence and then scores of bloodcurdling screams. The number 405 bus was steered over the mountainside by a terrorist. The bus exploded and 17 people died and scores were injured. Yehuda and his colleagues rushed to the scene and began to care for the wounded and dead. It was chilling and horrifying chaos Yehuda relates. For six years after this incident Meshi Zahav and a dedicated group of volunteers continued this work of Chesed Shel Emet, the work that "makes God smile" - true kindness – unconditional giving to those who cannot give thanks. The volunteers of ZAKA selflessly overcome horror to recover the human remains – fulfilling the biblical imperative to bury the dead "on the same day" and handle the shattered flesh and bones with respect for the divine spirit that had filled them.

ZAKA became an official organization in 1995. It began as an organization that was responsible for the recovery and identification of body parts, Chesed Shel Emet, Since its inception, the organization has grown to include its Motorcycle Unit for Rapid Rescue, the Search and Rescue Unit and departments handling public education and community services.

ZAKA is a HUMANITARIAN VOLUNTARY ORGANIZATION, coordinating nearly 1000 volunteers responding to tragic incidents in Israel.

ZAKA has branched and emerged as the dominant rescue, life saving and recovery non-governmental organization in Israel, working alongside law enforcement and emergency personnel in responding to incidents of terrorism, accidents or disasters."


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Please direct me to the acts of Arabs/Muslims who have heroically saved Jewish lives. I don't see these reports in the MSM and I am sure if they existed the MSM would report them. The last one you refer to is the 1922 Hebron massacre, quite a long time ago.

Why do the Middle East 'peace' organizations bear Hebrew names --- B'Tzelem, Gush Shalom, Shalom Achshav..?

Why do Jewish condemnation of rare Jewish terror sound so different than Arab/Muslim/Palestinian rebukes which invariably condemn the damage to the cause not the harm to the innocent?


163 posted on 08/17/2005 11:15:57 AM PDT by dervish (tagline for rent, inquire within)
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